Sticky Wicket Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Does anyone do this, what are the pros and cons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Kelsey does this. Here is a link to his recent brew day. Kelsey' Brew Day There is also a tutorial thread on the AHB website and a dedicated BIAB website (link below). BIABrewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 And here is the tutorial thread from AHB. It also lists out pros and cons. BIAB in an Urn Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilboBaggins Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Just ask Kelsey mate. His brewing techniques and taste in music are second to none. [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotm Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 All I know about 40L urns is that I want one, I don't have one, and if somebody bought me one, I'd be extremely appreciative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1525228310 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 ...what are the pros and cons? Let me be the devil's advocate and start with some cons. 1. Electricity is more expensive than natural gas. 2. You are stuffed if some clown knocks over the power pole down the street when you are into the boil. 3. They cost more than a pot and have to be connected to a socket to work. Let the flaming begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1525228310 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 ...if somebody bought me one' date=' I'd be extremely appreciative. [/quote'] You have to earn your urn Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Cheers John, I like to listen to all pros & cons and appreciate the input, from what I have read on here you know your stuff, however. 1.Not convinced electricity is more expensive than gas when when bought by the bottle, and electricity is more likely to be a constant than a change over of bottle halfway through. 2. You would have to be awfully unlucky. 3. Not a biggy. I do have a pub keg prepared and ready to go, all but the burner, unless you can convince me otherwise, I reckon I'm going electric. All comment is welcome , I want to make the right decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 You can do both. I will likely go down the gas route but at some stage I may get an over the side heating element too. Good for those emergencies when you run out of gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1525228310 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am not convinced either. I was just playing Advocatus Diaboli to get some discussion going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am not convinced either. I was just playing Advocatus Diaboli to get some discussion going. Ha Ha, today its gas V electricity, tomorrow it will airlock V gladwrap[biggrin] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregT5 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 tomorrow it will airlock V gladwrap[biggrin] Now there's a great topic for a new thread [biggrin] [cool] [crying] ...sorry, I will see myself out again...just as soon as I change my name to ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Got a love this forum and its members, and the discussions ,learning lots and feeling more at home everyday. Talking about power, what about a nuclear powered brew, the only thing that can f**k that up is a Tsunami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Yep, I do BIAB with a 40L Crown urn. I love it. Makes all grain brewing really simple I reckon. However, that's all I'm saying for now because I'm a little under the influence after attending a new brewery opening day today... [lol] [innocent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Eh!L Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Hey Stickey, I have a gas outdoor burner and I think its great! I have 5 brews down using it and a couple of starter worts and on the same 20lbs bottle of propane I'm sure by the wieght of the bottle I can still have another couple at least. Before I was trying to brew on the electric stove top[pinched] . The gas burner is so fast in comparison to bring things to a boil not to mention it is now so easy to control boil-overs. With gas all you need to do is turn it down a bit and because the the burner responds instantly to this reduction there's never any drama! I'm not sure but I'd say that the Urn could not match that. BTW, If you already have a keggle then I see this as a No-brainer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't think there's a right or wrong decision really. It's just whatever you want to do that suits you. I went for the urn because of its simplicity. But in saying that, a pot/keg with a burner really isn't complicated either. [lol] Either way, the actual process of BIAB is simple whether you use an electric urn or a pot and burner. I surprised myself when I did my first batch at just how easy it is. It's just time consuming but it's fun. With regards to Chad's comments about the boil overs, if you turn the urn off or turn the temp setting down, it will just turn the element off straight away so it may well act the same. However, I've never had any issues with boilovers. I just crank it up full bore and let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Hi Kelsey, The electric urn is the way I am leaning at the moment. As explained I have a keg, however by the time I purchase the taps, fittings and burner it appears it isn't much cheaper, not to mention I will require the use of SWMBO lid from large cook pot, and will require filling gas bottles. I have had a look online and can purchase the urn for approx $250 and that's it, effectively a turn key solution, can they be purchased cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Fair call. It does sound like there'd be a little more involved compared to using an urn. I'm not sure if they can be purchased cheaper, new anyway. I bought mine from Craftbrewer for $270 I think it was, I got the concealed element model, the exposed element ones are a little cheaper but I preferred the concealed one when looking to buy one. They're easier to clean apparently. The only thing I decided to do was get a 3 piece ball valve to replace the tap on it. Not that there was anything wrong with the tap, but my piece of tubing I use to transfer the wort from the urn to the kettle wouldn't fit over the tap, whereas it's a snug fit over the valve. You don't need that though, I just used a funnel into the tubing until I got the valve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Had a look at your brew day thread, good of you guys to go too the trouble to do this. I hope you don't mind me pestering you when I do get the urn. Where did you purchase the three piece ball valve, and how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I got the valve from Craftbrewer as well. The valve itself was about 20 bucks, but there's a few other things that go with it as well, so in total it was around $40 ish for the whole setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 +1 for the Urn.... certainly safer if you have young kids and easier on brew days imo. 1 vessle to faff about with compared to gas bottles, burners and a pot. Also you can brew indoors with an urn which makes a good heat source in the winter months. Edit: pretty hard to run out of electricity half way through a boil too [alien] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Edit: pretty hard to run out of electricity half way through a boil too [alien] LMAO [lol] The chances were probably increased a fair bit up here lately with all this flooding and wind cutting power to half the SEQ area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Yeah I don't envy that at the moment. I guess the same situation down here with the recent fires too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH1525226084 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Bill's back! I've missed Kegalix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Snatch Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 At $270 on the National Home Brew website this suits my budget. Has anyone that's been using one of these ever had problems with cleaning the water level tube that's on the outside? Just seems one of those parts that would give headaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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