kmar92 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, stquinto said: Duvel Clone with step mash 2.pdf 863.87 kB · 0 downloads Interesting recipe @stquinto with a 30 min protein rest and then only a 30 min mash - unusual. 60 min boil? Also a big Saaz hop. I would like to try that but it would tie up a brew fridge for a month. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 36 minutes ago, stquinto said: I hear you Phil... I am gradually collecting kegs, fill 'em and stash some. I'm also trying (trying being the operative word..) to have a cuppla dry days a week. Ideally three. I entertained myself by counting all of my drinks with an App call Drink Control.... strewth ! The results are enough to make you reach out for a stiff one ! Yeah well, I haven't bothered about that, but then I don't drink much anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 4 hours ago, beach_life said: Berliner Weisse. Using https://wyeastlab.com/product/berliner-weisse-blend/ for the fifth time, full repitch onto the cake. Autolysis is apparently not an issue with a longe ferment - this was 5 months - as all the bad bits get eaten. 6% apparently. Nicely sour, dry, pungent on the nose. Kinda umm, Brett (for those that know) - grass, hay, farmhouse for sure. Very refreshing. Made me think: I wonder what you might get from a co-pitch of Lallemand Farmhouse with Philly Sour? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, kmar92 said: Interesting recipe @stquinto with a 30 min protein rest and then only a 30 min mash - unusual. 60 min boil? Also a big Saaz hop. I would like to try that but it would tie up a brew fridge for a month. Thanks for the input @kmar92: I'd happily tweak it next time. What are you thiking ? A longer mash and a longer boil ? TBH the chemistry of it all is beyond me ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 11 hours ago, stquinto said: Duvel Clone with step mash 2.pdf 863.87 kB · 6 downloads thanks, looks dead easy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said: a co-pitch Nothing like Brett but it may give it more character 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 17 hours ago, stquinto said: Thanks for the input @kmar92: I'd happily tweak it next time. What are you thiking ? A longer mash and a longer boil ? TBH the chemistry of it all is beyond me ... Not really. If you are happy with the result there is not much point in changing the recipe. It is just unusual to have such a short mash but it obviously is doing what it has to do, i.e. convert the starch in the malt to sugars via enzymes, so that they can be fermented. The step mash is using different temperatures as the 2 main enzymes work best at 2 different temps. How long was the boil, I didn't notice it listed in the recipe? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, kmar92 said: Not really. If you are happy with the result there is not much point in changing the recipe. It is just unusual to have such a short mash but it obviously is doing what it has to do, i.e. convert the starch in the malt to sugars via enzymes, so that they can be fermented. The step mash is using different temperatures as the 2 main enzymes work best at 2 different temps. How long was the boil, I didn't notice it listed in the recipe? Thanks for the input The boil was 60 minutes. In the original recipe it says to go for a 90 minute boil. It also uses candy syrup but I have to order it specially and it bumps up the price quite a bit, so I used table sugar. Ditto for the yeast - MJ41 works fine and it’s half the price of Wyeast or White Labs. If it ferments out properly, and you lager it for a few months (two to three), you get a decent approximation to the real thing. I might try a longer mash and boil next time just to see… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Beer at the new house 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBooz2 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, kmar92 said: It is just unusual to have such a short mash but it obviously is doing what it has to do, i.e. convert the starch in the malt to sugars via enzymes, so that they can be fermented. The step mash is using different temperatures as the 2 main enzymes work best at 2 different temps. Not really unusual IMO. From my understanding the bulk of the mash conversion is over and done with in about 30 minutes anyway, that is if the mash pH and temps are in the correct zones etc. Its a two step mash and it takes time to get from the lower temp up to to the second and also mash out stages so those ramp times have to be considered in the overall picture as well. Some of my slow ramp rises from the first step to the main mash have produced some very high conversion efficiencies so I know you have to take the ramp times into consideration at all times. @stquinto do you have records of the ME and BHE numbers for the DUVEL clones you have done? Edited February 3, 2023 by iBooz2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDT2 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, beach_life said: Beer at the new house Does it taste different??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, iBooz2 said: @stquinto do you have records of the ME and BHE numbers for the DUVEL clones you have done? Errr... I don't take any measurements other than an OG at the end of the boil. I put a sample in the freezer for a while then pour it into the tube and drop the hydrometer in. I tried putting a bit on a refractometer but TBH I can't get a consistent reading. I put a few drops on, took a reading, cleaned it, then repeated it with the same liquid and got a different reading each time. I could take a proper hydrometer reading, then pour the samplt back in the boil I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Really enjoying this Coopers Saison. A bit darker than some, but it’s a lovely drop. I’m a sucker for clear beers too so the time spent in the keg waiting for a spot in the keezer was worth it 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 hours ago, RDT2 said: Does it taste different??? Yes, yes it does 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 2 hours ago, stquinto said: Really enjoying this Coopers Saison. A bit darker than some, but it’s a lovely drop. I’m a sucker for clear beers too so the time spent in the keg waiting for a spot in the keezer was worth it Looks pretty nice mate, I haven't got the patience for that ATM but maybe one day I will try something similar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Westmalle Dubbel, served at cellar temperature (about 13C) Although it’s not too strong, it’s pretty heavy. Phew! Deffo a last beer of the night 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDT2 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 This Aussie Lager is delicious my mate came over to collect his keg so we had a couple! It’s really cleared up nicely. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John304 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 23 hours ago, kmar92 said: Not really. If you are happy with the result there is not much point in changing the recipe. It is just unusual to have such a short mash but it obviously is doing what it has to do, i.e. convert the starch in the malt to sugars via enzymes, so that they can be fermented. The step mash is using different temperatures as the 2 main enzymes work best at 2 different temps. How long was the boil, I didn't notice it listed in the recipe? John Palmer says the majority of the conversion is done in the first 15 minutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, RDT2 said: This Aussie Lager is delicious my mate came over to collect his keg so we had a couple! It’s really cleared up nicely. That looks great mate, lovely colour, firm white head, looks like a nice beer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, RDT2 said: This Aussie Lager is delicious my mate came over to collect his keg so we had a couple! It’s really cleared up nicely. Looks a beaty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 20 hours ago, beach_life said: Beer at the new house Tempting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, RDT2 said: This Aussie Lager is delicious my mate came over to collect his keg so we had a couple! It’s really cleared up nicely. Looks great mate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Waimea pale ale first pour. Nice colour and carbonation. Taste is very average though to be honest. I can taste the citrus and pine that waimea supposedly brings to the table but its extremely muted. Overall a pretty bland beer to be honest. I won't be buying or using waimea again for flavour or aroma. Bittering only 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone boy Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Super slurper hazy IPA. Yummy! Glad I put the extra hops in. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBillett09 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Some inspiration while I continue reading through the brewing Bible. Weihenstephaner Kristall Weissbier It’s been many years since I had something from this range, I had forgotten the taste! I will be getting more though. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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