Brauhaus Fritz Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 11:49 AM, Brauhaus Fritz said: This is the Brew bag. I ordered it online from the Brew shed. You just put some 2 L milk bottles with frozen water inside, every bottle brings the temperature down by about 2°. It is so easy and it works. yes, I also used Lalle Kolsch yeast for the first brew. I won’t dry hop today, it is still too active. og was 1052, today it’s on 1024. Fg is supposedly 1018 or less. It is tasting good , fresh and sweet. on the left is a Smoty Ale Dry hopped today with experimental New Zealand hops. Overnight the gravity dropped from 1022 to 1018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Now all of you AG Brewers can have a bit of a laugh, this is my first attempt to add a recipe to Brewfather, it is about as far as I got & it has even it has changed some of the figures I entered e.g. Grain bill entries, boil times, hop quantities etc but I am sure it is my fault. I wasn't aware that you had to estimate an original gravity not to mention heaps of other things, so I will have to study the help section of the app much more Brewfather_AmericanPaleAle_20220306.pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezzza Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Sorry mate @Classic Brewing Co I use BeerSmith software and know enough to get me out of trouble in that one - but am no expert... but Brewmother nil idea at all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Classic Brewing Co said: Now all of you AG Brewers can have a bit of a laugh, this is my first attempt to add a recipe to Brewfather, it is about as far as I got & it has even it has changed some of the figures I entered e.g. Grain bill entries, boil times, hop quantities etc but I am sure it is my fault. I wasn't aware that you had to estimate an original gravity not to mention heaps of other things, so I will have to study the help section of the app much more Brewfather_AmericanPaleAle_20220306.pdf 110.37 kB · 7 downloads Your kilos and grams are about face Pale malt should be kilos, other two grams. Otherwise looks good. Edited March 6, 2022 by Pale Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Using your recipe @Classic Brewing Co i came up with this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pale Man said: Using your recipe @Classic Brewing Co i came up with this. I really appreciate your input, I am afraid I am shooting in the dark here, I can not make any sense of it ATM, I have attached the recipe that came with the kit, I can't seem to enter the right data in there & when I do it presents other figures FFS, I know it's not hard I just haven't got it right. Thanks a lot for bothering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 Hi @Classic Brewing Co, Have a look at some of David Heath Homebrew and The Home Brew Network YouTube videos on Brewfather. Typically you select your equipment profile first and adjust it to the recipe you are doing. The main thing to change is Batch Size. If you change it after you have added in ingredients, Brewfather asks you if you want to "scale" your recipe. Saying "yes" adjusts the ingredient amounts to the new "profile". That can throw things about a bit. Note that when you create a new recipe, you select the equipment profile (although if you have set a profile as your default, it will always come up). Making changes in your Profile configuration within the recipe editing mode does not make changes to the original equipment profile. I am not sure why your recipe would show 272 kilograms of Briess Victory and Crystal, but only 440g Pale Malt. Something is screwy there. Check out some of the YouTube videos and have another go tomorrow. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: Hi @Classic Brewing Co, Have a look at some of David Heath Homebrew and The Home Brew Network YouTube videos on Brewfather. Typically you select your equipment profile first and adjust it to the recipe you are doing. The main thing to change is Batch Size. If you change it after you have added in ingredients, Brewfather asks you if you want to "scale" your recipe. Saying "yes" adjusts the ingredient amounts to the new "profile". That can throw things about a bit. Note that when you create a new recipe, you select the equipment profile (although if you have set a profile as your default, it will always come up). Making changes in your Profile configuration within the recipe editing mode does not make changes to the original equipment profile. I am not sure why your recipe would show 272 kilograms of Briess Victory and Crystal, but only 440g Pale Malt. Something is screwy there. Check out some of the YouTube videos and have another go tomorrow. OK thanks Shamus, what you say is correct as I am guilty of doing what you said, it did mention scaling, I will delete it & start again. I appreciate your help. I have watched a few videos but need to keep doing it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Classic Brewing Co said: OK thanks Shamus, what you say is correct as I am guilty of doing what you said, it did mention scaling, I will delete it & start again. I appreciate your help. I have watched a few videos but need to keep doing it. As i am a brewzilla 35l user and i have every thing set up properly to my knowledge This is for your exact recipe done in Brewfather and its scaled to 22 litres what you will need to do is when heating your mash water is bring the mash water to around 71°c this is the strike water once the grain is in and you have finished mashing the grains your mash temp will be at 68°c for your 60 minutes mash in mash out isnt necessary but you can add it in if you wish or just go straight to sparge during mash in bring 9.23l to 68°c for your sparge water Raise your mash tun and allow it to drain , This will be a great time to set your bz35l to HH, and slowly pour your 9.23l into the mash tun and let that completely drain then remove the mash tun once sparging is complete next stage is the Boil once you have got your rolling boil and have avoided the dreaded boil over (spray bottle of water or sanitiser will do the trick) this is the start of the 60 min boil and time to put the 1st additions of hops in 15minutes to go to end of boil add your 15 min addition flame out/end of boil its time for your last additions also with about 10 minutes to go will be the perfect opportunity to sanitise your immersion chiller wether you are going to flow wort through a esky full of ICE or you are just going or you are going to immerse the immersion chiller in the wort and flow water through the imersion chiller after your last addition its time to chill to pitching temp so you can pitch your yeast 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Man Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 2 hours ago, ozdevil said: As i am a brewzilla 35l user and i have every thing set up properly to my knowledge This is for your exact recipe done in Brewfather and its scaled to 22 litres what you will need to do is when heating your mash water is bring the mash water to around 71°c this is the strike water once the grain is in and you have finished mashing the grains your mash temp will be at 68°c for your 60 minutes mash in mash out isnt necessary but you can add it in if you wish or just go straight to sparge during mash in bring 9.23l to 68°c for your sparge water Raise your mash tun and allow it to drain , This will be a great time to set your bz35l to HH, and slowly pour your 9.23l into the mash tun and let that completely drain then remove the mash tun once sparging is complete next stage is the Boil once you have got your rolling boil and have avoided the dreaded boil over (spray bottle of water or sanitiser will do the trick) this is the start of the 60 min boil and time to put the 1st additions of hops in 15minutes to go to end of boil add your 15 min addition flame out/end of boil its time for your last additions also with about 10 minutes to go will be the perfect opportunity to sanitise your immersion chiller wether you are going to flow wort through a esky full of ICE or you are just going or you are going to immerse the immersion chiller in the wort and flow water through the imersion chiller after your last addition its time to chill to pitching temp so you can pitch your yeast Well done fella nice explanation 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 8 hours ago, ozdevil said: As i am a brewzilla 35l user and i have every thing set up properly to my knowledge This is for your exact recipe done in Brewfather and its scaled to 22 litres @ozdevilThat is fantastic, Thank You. Looking at your recipe makes things a lot clearer & your detailed explanation is more than helpful. I will follow it the best I can. Looking at it in 3 basic steps makes it look a lot easier as I feel I have been worrying a bit too much about all of the details. By the time my unit get's here I reckon I will be ready to tackle the first brew without slipping up an an important step or overlook something. I really appreciate your time & effort so thanks heaps again. This only cements what I & others have said on here many times, there is a mountain of help & knowledge available on this great forum & at this time I need it as much as anyone. Cheers Phil. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Classic Brewing Co said: @ozdevilThat is fantastic, Thank You. Looking at your recipe makes things a lot clearer & your detailed explanation is more than helpful. I will follow it the best I can. Looking at it in 3 basic steps makes it look a lot easier as I feel I have been worrying a bit too much about all of the details. By the time my unit get's here I reckon I will be ready to tackle the first brew without slipping up an an important step or overlook something. I really appreciate your time & effort so thanks heaps again. This only cements what I & others have said on here many times, there is a mountain of help & knowledge available on this great forum & at this time I need it as much as anyone. Cheers Phil. Phil it is daunting for all of us that start to go A.G. I have Gash from the "The Homebrew Network" to thank in getting me to the point i am today. dont overload yourself with to much information. your mistakes can be fixed even if your target S.G was meant to be 1.050 and you only got 1.040 for s.g you still have made beer hitting your Target numbers at the start is important but not the be all end all Here is The Homebrew Network with Gash with 2 part youtube doing a Pale ale. unfortunately its not the BZ35l but its big brother bz 65l however the Principles are the same... Mind you Gash Talks and gets side tracked a bit. but he is very easy to learn from specially his early videos Part 2 mate enjoy , relax your going to be fine and your recipe is pretty straight forward and easy one cheers Mick (oz) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 28 minutes ago, ozdevil said: Phil it is daunting for all of us that start to go A.G. I have Gash from the "The Homebrew Network" to thank in getting me to the point i am today. dont overload yourself with to much information. your mistakes can be fixed even if your target S.G was meant to be 1.050 and you only got 1.040 for s.g you still have made beer hitting your Target numbers at the start is important but not the be all end all Here is The Homebrew Network with Gash with 2 part youtube doing a Pale ale. unfortunately its not the BZ35l but its big brother bz 65l however the Principles are the same... Mind you Gash Talks and gets side tracked a bit. but he is very easy to learn from specially his early videos Part 2 mate enjoy , relax your going to be fine and your recipe is pretty straight forward and easy one cheers Mick (oz) Cheers for that I have seen quite a few videos already, not that one in case the measurements confused me however I may pick up valuable information from it. The vids on KL website are also helpful, unfortunately some of them I can't watch due to the dreaded Green Screen Problem, my graphics card is fine but maybe it needs updating. I have tried disabling hardware acceleration but I need to see if Microsoft Edge is in the list under Graphic settings. Again thanks for your help. Cheers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 10 hours ago, ozdevil said: As i am a brewzilla 35l user and i have every thing set up properly to my knowledge This is for your exact recipe done in Brewfather and its scaled to 22 litres what you will need to do is when heating your mash water is bring the mash water to around 71°c this is the strike water once the grain is in and you have finished mashing the grains your mash temp will be at 68°c for your 60 minutes mash in mash out isnt necessary but you can add it in if you wish or just go straight to sparge during mash in bring 9.23l to 68°c for your sparge water Raise your mash tun and allow it to drain , This will be a great time to set your bz35l to HH, and slowly pour your 9.23l into the mash tun and let that completely drain then remove the mash tun once sparging is complete next stage is the Boil once you have got your rolling boil and have avoided the dreaded boil over (spray bottle of water or sanitiser will do the trick) this is the start of the 60 min boil and time to put the 1st additions of hops in 15minutes to go to end of boil add your 15 min addition flame out/end of boil its time for your last additions also with about 10 minutes to go will be the perfect opportunity to sanitise your immersion chiller wether you are going to flow wort through a esky full of ICE or you are just going or you are going to immerse the immersion chiller in the wort and flow water through the imersion chiller after your last addition its time to chill to pitching temp so you can pitch your yeast Great work Oz mate, Like Phil, I'm so appreciative of these explanations, for a K&K brewer these tips are invaluable when we decide to go AG. Thanks Mick (Oz) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Bottle and wash and Brew day. Bottled a Coopers Pale and a Woolies Lager, Put another Pale straight onto the dirty Pale, 1k LDM 200g Dextrose, 200g Carapils boiled for 10 min and forgot the hops, I'll dry hop later. Cleaned up the Lager Fv and put in a Woolies Draught, 500g LDM 100g dextrose, 100g Carapils boiled for 10min and 20g of Bravo hops as a tea. This is the Lager FV, not seen this before, I sieved off most of it but wondering what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, DavidM said: Bottle and wash and Brew day. Bottled a Coopers Pale and a Woolies Lager, Put another Pale straight onto the dirty Pale, 1k LDM 200g Dextrose, 200g Carapils boiled for 10 min and forgot the hops, I'll dry hop later. Cleaned up the Lager Fv and put in a Woolies Draught, 500g LDM 100g dextrose, 100g Carapils boiled for 10min and 20g of Bravo hops as a tea. This is the Lager FV, not seen this before, I sieved off most of it but wondering what it is? Hi David. I've never had anything like that form on my brews but it doesn't look great. I'm just wondering if you sampled the beer before bottling in case it had gone bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Took a sip, seemed Fine... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, DavidM said: Bottle and wash and Brew day. Bottled a Coopers Pale and a Woolies Lager, Put another Pale straight onto the dirty Pale, 1k LDM 200g Dextrose, 200g Carapils boiled for 10 min and forgot the hops, I'll dry hop later. Cleaned up the Lager Fv and put in a Woolies Draught, 500g LDM 100g dextrose, 100g Carapils boiled for 10min and 20g of Bravo hops as a tea. This is the Lager FV, not seen this before, I sieved off most of it but wondering what it is? I think it looks like un-dissolved Dextrose but that should mix in easy, it may clean up in the bottle, the yeast would have gone to the bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmar92 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, DavidM said: Bottle and wash and Brew day. Bottled a Coopers Pale and a Woolies Lager, Put another Pale straight onto the dirty Pale, 1k LDM 200g Dextrose, 200g Carapils boiled for 10 min and forgot the hops, I'll dry hop later. Cleaned up the Lager Fv and put in a Woolies Draught, 500g LDM 100g dextrose, 100g Carapils boiled for 10min and 20g of Bravo hops as a tea. This is the Lager FV, not seen this before, I sieved off most of it but wondering what it is? May be pellicle, though I am not sure. Pellicle formation is usually just cosmetic and should not affect the beer, especially if you did not get it in the bottles. It can be caused by oxygen in the ferment vessel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Extra Parts for the Immersion Chiller, I should have ordered these at the same time as the Brewzilla but they are on the way as well. It's my Birthday on the 20th so all this new gear is my present ( to myself from myself ) 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauhaus Fritz Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 11:49 AM, Brauhaus Fritz said: This is the Brew bag. I ordered it online from the Brew shed. You just put some 2 L milk bottles with frozen water inside, every bottle brings the temperature down by about 2°. It is so easy and it works. yes, I also used Lalle Kolsch yeast for the first brew. I won’t dry hop today, it is still too active. og was 1052, today it’s on 1024. Fg is supposedly 1018 or less. It is tasting good , fresh and sweet. on the left is a Smoty Ale Bottled the Smoty Ale today, OG 1044, FG 1010 I think it’s gonna be a nice drop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brauhaus Fritz Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 11:49 AM, Brauhaus Fritz said: This is the Brew bag. I ordered it online from the Brew shed. You just put some 2 L milk bottles with frozen water inside, every bottle brings the temperature down by about 2°. It is so easy and it works. yes, I also used Lalle Kolsch yeast for the first brew. I won’t dry hop today, it is still too active. og was 1052, today it’s on 1024. Fg is supposedly 1018 or less. It is tasting good , fresh and sweet. on the left is a Smoty Ale Bottled the Smoty Ale today, OG 1044, FG 1010 I think it’s gonna be a nice drop 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I'mjust waiting a few more days for my latest to clear a little before bottling. It is supposed to be my amateur attempt at a Japanese type lager. MJ54 yeast. Coopers Cerveza kit. 1.2kg LME. 500g Coopers BE2. 15g x 20 minute boil of Sorachi Ace + 20 minute 80c steep of same + dry hop of 45g Lemondrop. Do you know that thing when you just sip a bit out of the trial jar to check the taste and you end up drinking it all? Well that happened. IT's not bad but maybe a tiny bit too bitter than the 1980s/1990s Sapporo that I was aiming at (although my memory of that taste may be vague). I think the next brew I do is going to be an IPA but with a similar hop mix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 21 hours ago, DavidM said: Bottle and wash and Brew day. Bottled a Coopers Pale and a Woolies Lager, Put another Pale straight onto the dirty Pale, 1k LDM 200g Dextrose, 200g Carapils boiled for 10 min and forgot the hops, I'll dry hop later. Cleaned up the Lager Fv and put in a Woolies Draught, 500g LDM 100g dextrose, 100g Carapils boiled for 10min and 20g of Bravo hops as a tea. This is the Lager FV, not seen this before, I sieved off most of it but wondering what it is? https://phdinbeer.com/2015/01/30/beer-microbiology-what-is-a-pellicle/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Marty_G said: https://phdinbeer.com/2015/01/30/beer-microbiology-what-is-a-pellicle/ Thanks, a tough read for a dummy like me but seems to not answer the question, is this bad. I'll find out in a few weeks when I take the top off. Hopefully skimming the top off has helped. And now we wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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