Franham Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I just brewed a zephyr light, which calls for 100g of dextrose and a Cooper's draught can. Any thoughts on replacing the dextrose amount, with a similar amount of a beer enhancer or ldm? Would this be an improvement? I'd like to keep the beer as a light beer but i've read that dextrose can contribute to a cidery taste, which my beer does have a little of. I plan to dry hop at some stage to improve the flavour too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pints Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Franham said: I just brewed a zephyr light, which calls for 100g of dextrose and a Cooper's draught can. Any thoughts on replacing the dextrose amount, with a similar amount of a beer enhancer or ldm? Would this be an improvement? I'd like to keep the beer as a light beer but i've read that dextrose can contribute to a cidery taste, which my beer does have a little of. I plan to dry hop at some stage to improve the flavour too... Hey bud. I've learnt from the others on here that DME is usually better idea than dextrose, as it gives the beer more body and head retention. I do find the DME can be quite sweet to my palate, but that's nothing a small hop boil can't fix. It's totally up to u, that's the beauty of this hobby. But replacing 100g dex with DME is prob going to be an improvement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone boy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Agree with @PintsAtMeLocalPints. Ditch the dex and use dme instead. DME is not quite as fermentable as dextrose so you could use a little bit more (don’t ask me the exact ratio but someone here will know) and get about the same ABV. Your beer will end up better. Also the cider flavour may not be the dextrose. It could also be esters produced by the yeast, especially if you brewed it too warm. Time might help that cider flavour dissipate. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tone boy said: Agree with @PintsAtMeLocalPints. Ditch the dex and use dme instead. DME is not quite as fermentable as dextrose so you could use a little bit more (don’t ask me the exact ratio but someone here will know) and get about the same ABV. Your beer will end up better. Also the cider flavour may not be the dextrose. It could also be esters produced by the yeast, especially if you brewed it too warm. Time might help that cider flavour dissipate. Cheers Agreed, ditch the Dextrose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franham Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 Excellent, will be my next move, with little bit of cascade hops. Thanks guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 @Franham While malt definitely has many positives to improving your beer, don't discard dextrose completely. Certain styles of beer aren't so good with too much malt. In fact all the Coopers brew enhancers contain differing amounts of dextrose for that reason. Your personal tastes will determine what works best for you but for me I prefer using BE2 with Aus Pale Ale or Canadian Blonde and using malt in beers like Brew A IPA or Dark Ale. I recently made Coopers Best Extra Stout which called for dark malt and dextrose. It turned out really well but it might not have been as good had I omitted the dextrose. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stquinto Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 18 hours ago, MUZZY said: @Franham While malt definitely has many positives to improving your beer, don't discard dextrose completely. Certain styles of beer aren't so good with too much malt. In fact all the Coopers brew enhancers contain differing amounts of dextrose for that reason. Your personal tastes will determine what works best for you but for me I prefer using BE2 with Aus Pale Ale or Canadian Blonde and using malt in beers like Brew A IPA or Dark Ale. I recently made Coopers Best Extra Stout which called for dark malt and dextrose. It turned out really well but it might not have been as good had I omitted the dextrose. @MUZZYI'm with you on this one mate. Other than following the recipes, I can't always source all of the Coopers original products (actually I can only get the kits) so I make up my own BE with dry malt, dextrose and maltodextrin. I once did a Belgian Dubbel from a kit and used a shed load of dark malt extract as a fermentable. It was a beast of a brew: like the anti-dote to Asterix's magic potion as it would floor you after a couple. Didn't help that I bottled it in 75cl bottles too once opened, it had to be drunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, stquinto said: @MUZZYI'm with you on this one mate. Other than following the recipes, I can't always source all of the Coopers original products (actually I can only get the kits) so I make up my own BE with dry malt, dextrose and maltodextrin. I once did a Belgian Dubbel from a kit and used a shed load of dark malt extract as a fermentable. It was a beast of a brew: like the anti-dote to Asterix's magic potion as it would floor you after a couple. Didn't help that I bottled it in 75cl bottles too once opened, it had to be drunk Hahaha Asterix. I loved those cartoon books as a kid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Micky Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 hours ago, MUZZY said: 16 hours ago, stquinto said: @MUZZYI'm with you on this one mate. Other than following the recipes, I can't always source all of the Coopers original products (actually I can only get the kits) so I make up my own BE with dry malt, dextrose and maltodextrin. I'm with you Saint Q make up my own BE (Sorry Coopers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopers DIY Beer Team Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Mickep said: I'm with you Saint Q make up my own BE (Sorry Coopers). Nothing to apologize for if you can't source products locally (especially in these lockdown times). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Coopers DIY Beer Team said: Nothing to apologize for if you can't source products locally (especially in these lockdown times). I guess us South Ozzies should be thankful for the freedom to move around shopping, pubbing etc, lockdown is no fun but we have only had it for about a week or so when it was put in place. It's hard to imagine being locked in for weeks at a time. It is a bonus to be able to make our own beer & I think we have all learnt to keep the stocks up for continued supply. Cheers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 49 minutes ago, Classic Brewing Co said: I guess us South Ozzies should be thankful for the freedom to move around shopping, pubbing etc, lockdown is no fun but we have only had it for about a week or so when it was put in place. It's hard to imagine being locked in for weeks at a time. It is a bonus to be able to make our own beer & I think we have all learnt to keep the stocks up for continued supply. Cheers. yes very lucky you south ozzies but never get complacement as keeping covid zero in australia now is a thing of the past and its just a matter of time lol lucky we all getting to those vaccination rates However lockdowns is not what you have to worry about as there is a bigger thing happening and i would not ignore that 1000s of trucks on monday and tuesday was turned away from the border to Sa rediculas freight and transport requirments and if that keeps up that trucks are getting turned around South Australia will be not in lockdown but will be in crisis as the state will shut down as it is not getting produce or goods or anything.. and this is likely to happen like it is Qld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) Our Premier & the Police Commissioner/State Coordinator & Health Authorities are very much on the ball as soon as there is slight risk they are on it, so if they put restrictions in place we go with it. That's when it's hard to by Toilet paper, Pasta etc however the state is backed up by lot's of warehouses from the Supermarket chains & we are constantly reminded that there is no need to panic buy but Sheeple do it ( Journeyman quote ) I cannot imagine a transport strike going on for too long as they all have families sitting at home too. Anyway that's my opinion, if I am wrong, so be it. Edited September 1, 2021 by Classic Brewing Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Classic Brewing Co said: Our Premier & the Police Commissioner/State Coordinator & Health Authorities are very much on the ball as soon as there is slight risk they are on it, so if they put restrictions in place we go with it. That's when it's hard to by Toilet paper, Pasta etc however the state is backed up by lot's of warehouses from the Supermarket chains & we are constantly reminded that there is no need to panic buy but Sheeple do it ( Journeyman quote ) I cannot imagine a transport strike going on for too long as they all have families sitting at home too. Anyway that's my opinion, if I am wrong, so be it. Phil on Monday You would have seen a temp truck blockafde of the qld NSW border , yes if it wasnt for pauling hanson it would have got legs. That is not the end of it. 1000's of trucks over monday and tuesday was turned away from from the border there is a national one brewing as we speak this is a big mistake from your premier yes i agree they have done good and i support most of the restrictions you dont think there will be well it may not happen , but unless things change to the restrictions on frieght and they are not asking for much I am not sure how you would feel getting a tested every 72 hours just do your job Alot of these victorian truckies that bring stuff to stock ya shelves in South OZ coles and woolies and homebrew shops phil have to test and isolate until rersults are negative you think thats not going to have an impact on the shelves anyway i am interstate trucke , i am part of alot of truckie forums and those that are really in the know but i am not going to say much more in this topic as its detracting from topic at hand lets enjoy our beer in the sun Edited September 1, 2021 by ozdevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Brewing Co Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, ozdevil said: Phil on Monday You would have seen a temp truck blockafde of the qld NSW border , yes if it wasnt for pauling hanson it would have got legs. That is not the end of it. 1000's of trucks over monday and tuesday was turned away from from the border there is a national one brewing as we speak this is a big mistake from your premier yes i agree they have done good and i support most of the restrictions you dont think there will be well it may not happen , but unless things change to the restrictions on frieght and they are not asking for much I am not sure how you would feel getting a tested every 72 hours just do your job Alot of these victorian truckies that bring stuff to stock ya shelves in South OZ coles and woolies and homebrew shops phil have to test and isolate until rersults are negative you think thats not going to have an impact on the shelves anyway i am interstate trucke , i am part of alot of truckie forums and those that are really in the know but i am not going to say much more in this topic as its detracting from topic at hand lets enjoy our beer in the sun I need 2 Panadol & a lie down before I can tackle this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdevil Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Classic Brewing Co said: I need 2 Panadol & a lie down before I can tackle this. its ok drink another of ya finest mate brews mate. I am a bit of a bad mood over covid at the moment as i am truckie trying to do the right thing mate but i can clearly see the reasoning to truckies striking and blockading borders i have had 38 covid tests phil just to do my job so you and i can get fed anyway enough said lets have a beer and get back on track here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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