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Well @Pale Man ..ill throw in a bit 12 gauge add a bit of 240 ..a switch or 2 .. crimp it and give it a good flick  ..laughin 🍻

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14 minutes ago, Graubart said:

Looking for enlightenment? 

the action of enlightening or the state of being enlightened 🤔

i got enlightenment there GB ..all 18v of it see 😎🍻

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Well I just could not help myself.  Cubed up yet another brew today, an Otto's Pilsner @Otto Von Blotto that makes it Batch # 59, AG # 18 and four brew days in a row.   Maybe do another tomorrow but will see with timings what I have grain stocks of.

 Used RO water for this Otto baby and only the 0.10 kg of Acidulated Malts as per Otto's recipe but still could not get the PH of the mash down further than 5.6.  My BeerSmith PH adjust tool tells me this needed 6.2 ml of lactic Acid addition to hit the target PH of 5.3 (which I did not put in this first try of his recipe) a suck it and see approach.

Only salts added were per Otto's recipe 0.50 g Gypsum, 0.45 g Epson Salts and 0.32 g Calcium Chloride.  I did not try and hit any particular water profile, was just going to see how this turns out.

Bug bear of the day was that the recent batch of Saaz hops from KL seemed to turn to mush in the boil and a lot of matter got out of my hop socks.  At first I thought one or more of the hop socks had come undone or had torn open but this was not the case.  I thick the hop grind in manufacturing of these pellets is way too fine as I don't have this problem with say PoR, or Haller... Mitt... etc.

For those of you that use hop spiders, do you lot think if I get one of those, will stop the crud getting into my wort.  Any pros or cons using a hop spider?  TIA.

Otto did you record the PH of your batch recently as interested were it got to? - Cheers

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 36.00 L
Post Boil Volume: 26.01 L
Batch Size (fermenter): 22.00 L   
Bottling Volume: 20.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 10.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 49.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 77.3 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt              Name                                             Type          #          %/IBU         Volume        
36.50 L          Alicat's RO Water                                Water         1          -             -             
0.50 g           Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash)                  Water Agent   2          -             -             
0.45 g           Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash)                        Water Agent   3          -             -             
0.32 g           Calcium Chloride (Mash)                          Water Agent   4          -             -             
4.25 kg          Pilsner (WEY) Premium Pilsner Malt (2.8 EBC)     Grain         5          94.2 %        2.77 L        
0.15 kg          Melanoidin (Weyermann) (50.0 EBC)                Grain         6          3.3 %         0.10 L        
0.10 kg          Acidulated (Weyermann) (3.5 EBC)                 Grain         7          2.2 %         0.07 L        
0.01 kg          Black Malt (Simpsons) (1666.5 EBC)               Grain         8          0.2 %         0.01 L        
32.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - First Wort 90.0 min              Hop           9          18.8 IBUs     -             
32.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - Boil 80.0 min                    Hop           10         16.9 IBUs     -             
30.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - Boil 15.0 min                    Hop           11         10.2 IBUs     -             
5.00 g           Yeast Nutrient Powder (Boil 15.0 mins)           Other         12         -             -             
0.10 g           Whirlfloc Granulated (Boil 5.0 mins)             Fining        13         -             -             
30.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - Steep/Whirlpool  15.0 min, 90.2  Hop           14         3.9 IBUs      -             
1.0 pkg          Czech Pilsner Lager (Wyeast Labs #2278) [124.21  Yeast         15         -             -             


Mash Schedule: BIABasket, Ottos Pilsner, 3 Step Mash
Total Grain Weight: 4.51 kg
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Name                    Description                           Step Temperature Step Time     
Mash Step 1 63C         Add 38.76 L of water and heat to 63.0 63.0 C           50 min        
Mash Step 2 72 C        Heat to 72.0 C over 9 min             72.0 C           30 min        
Mash Step 3 Mash Out 78 Heat to 78.0 C over 5 min             78.0 C           10 min        

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1 hour ago, iBooz2 said:

Well I just could not help myself.  Cubed up yet another brew today, an Otto's Pilsner @Otto Von Blotto that makes it Batch # 59, AG # 18 and four brew days in a row.   Maybe do another tomorrow but will see with timings what I have grain stocks of.

 Used RO water for this Otto baby and only the 0.10 kg of Acidulated Malts as per Otto's recipe but still could not get the PH of the mash down further than 5.6.  My BeerSmith PH adjust tool tells me this needed 6.2 ml of lactic Acid addition to hit the target PH of 5.3 (which I did not put in this first try of his recipe) a suck it and see approach.

Only salts added were per Otto's recipe 0.50 g Gypsum, 0.45 g Epson Salts and 0.32 g Calcium Chloride.  I did not try and hit any particular water profile, was just going to see how this turns out.

Bug bear of the day was that the recent batch of Saaz hops from KL seemed to turn to mush in the boil and a lot of matter got out of my hop socks.  At first I thought one or more of the hop socks had come undone or had torn open but this was not the case.  I thick the hop grind in manufacturing of these pellets is way too fine as I don't have this problem with say PoR, or Haller... Mitt... etc.

For those of you that use hop spiders, do you lot think if I get one of those, will stop the crud getting into my wort.  Any pros or cons using a hop spider?  TIA.

Otto did you record the PH of your batch recently as interested were it got to? - Cheers


Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 36.00 L
Post Boil Volume: 26.01 L
Batch Size (fermenter): 22.00 L   
Bottling Volume: 20.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 10.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 49.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 77.3 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt              Name                                             Type          #          %/IBU         Volume        
36.50 L          Alicat's RO Water                                Water         1          -             -             
0.50 g           Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash)                  Water Agent   2          -             -             
0.45 g           Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash)                        Water Agent   3          -             -             
0.32 g           Calcium Chloride (Mash)                          Water Agent   4          -             -             
4.25 kg          Pilsner (WEY) Premium Pilsner Malt (2.8 EBC)     Grain         5          94.2 %        2.77 L        
0.15 kg          Melanoidin (Weyermann) (50.0 EBC)                Grain         6          3.3 %         0.10 L        
0.10 kg          Acidulated (Weyermann) (3.5 EBC)                 Grain         7          2.2 %         0.07 L        
0.01 kg          Black Malt (Simpsons) (1666.5 EBC)               Grain         8          0.2 %         0.01 L        
32.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - First Wort 90.0 min              Hop           9          18.8 IBUs     -             
32.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - Boil 80.0 min                    Hop           10         16.9 IBUs     -             
30.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - Boil 15.0 min                    Hop           11         10.2 IBUs     -             
5.00 g           Yeast Nutrient Powder (Boil 15.0 mins)           Other         12         -             -             
0.10 g           Whirlfloc Granulated (Boil 5.0 mins)             Fining        13         -             -             
30.00 g          Saaz [4.30 %] - Steep/Whirlpool  15.0 min, 90.2  Hop           14         3.9 IBUs      -             
1.0 pkg          Czech Pilsner Lager (Wyeast Labs #2278) [124.21  Yeast         15         -             -             


Mash Schedule: BIABasket, Ottos Pilsner, 3 Step Mash
Total Grain Weight: 4.51 kg
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Name                    Description                           Step Temperature Step Time     
Mash Step 1 63C         Add 38.76 L of water and heat to 63.0 63.0 C           50 min        
Mash Step 2 72 C        Heat to 72.0 C over 9 min             72.0 C           30 min        
Mash Step 3 Mash Out 78 Heat to 78.0 C over 5 min             78.0 C           10 min        

Hi mate I made this recipe a few times made it the other day my ph started at 5.9 adjusted to 5.6 left it at that. Seems good so far it’s cold crashing now. I use a hop spider keeps the crap out and comes out really clear after a short whirlpool using whirfloc. I also made same recipe with my hood instead of Saaz blood good. Hope your s turns out nice. 🍻 

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Good luck with the brew mate, it should turn out well even though the pH didn't quite get to where you wanted it. I didn't measure mine when I did that recent one, first brew back and all just wanted to make sure I still had my process down pat. Next time I make a pilsner I'll get a reading, I'm curious to see what it ends up at. 

I did take an FG test the other day though and had the obligatory taste of it, it's just as good as that recipe usually is 👍

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Another partial going down today.  Local supermarkets have been selling of Coopers OS and Lion cans pretty cheap lately so rather than my usual stove-top AG's I'm taking advantage of these discounted tins and continuing with partial-mash brews for now  This one is a first time ever using a Lion tin -  in particular, the draught.  Not much info out there about Lion kits and I know when I worked at my LHBS I don't think I sold a single can the entire year I was there!  But, what little review info I did read about them seemed to be quite favourable.  They're made in teh same place as Black Rock, WilliamsWarn, MangroveJacks (cans) etc so I guess there's no reason whey they should be any different.   Fortunately I also managed to find EBC/IBU info so that was helpful when it came to dialling up something in Beersmith:  

So, this simple 20 litre brew is modelled on a British Golden ale: 

Golden Lion

  • 1.7kg Lion Draught Can
  • 800g GF Ale Malt
  • 200g GF Wheat Malt
  • 200g GF Sour Grapes
  • 20g Amarillo @5mins
  • 30g Amarillo steep
  • Kveik Voss   

Expected: ABV=4%, IBU=31

As an aside, I don't think the BS EBC values are anywhere near correct for the this and Coopers OS kits.    

 

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Another brew day today an AG version of my Busty Blonde as I have some older US-05 yeasts to use up before I will have to make a starter with them.  This is Batch # 60, AG Batch # 19 using filtered rainwater, no salt additions just to see where the PH of the mash lands with just the 0.15 kg of Acidulated Malt inclusion and unfortunately it was high being 5.7.  It appears that my mashes when using RO water get to 5.6 so may have to look at using RO nearly all the time along with an injection of lactic acid.  Just waiting for the hot wort to clear up a bit and then it will be pumped into my last remain empty cube.

Its been a bit like a fresh wort factory around here this week.  ha ha😁

EDIT: changed my tactic with this brew, did not use the spiral filter at the bottom of the kettle just to see how it went.  Without it I can extract more of the wort = less wasted and the whirlpool seems to make the trub collect in the right spot away from the pump pickup so it was a win win today.

 

Recipe: Busty Blonde ver 6 AG # 19
Brewer: Alicat
Asst Brewer: 
Style: Blonde Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0) 

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 37.00 L
Post Boil Volume: 29.50 L
Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 L   
Bottling Volume: 21.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 9.1 EBC
Estimated IBU: 28.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 71.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt              Name                                             Type          #          %/IBU         Volume        
36.00 L          Melbourne Rain Water                             Water         1          -             -             
4.50 kg          Pale Ale, Finest Maris Otter (Simpsons) (4.2 EBC Grain         2          90.0 %        2.93 L        
0.25 kg          Cara-Pils/Carafoam Weyermann (4.5 EBC)           Grain         3          5.0 %         0.16 L        
0.15 kg          Acidulated (Weyermann) (3.5 EBC)                 Grain         4          3.0 %         0.10 L        
0.10 kg          Crystal, Light (Simpsons) (88.0 EBC)             Grain         5          2.0 %         0.07 L        
20.00 g          Centennial [8.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min              Hop           6          20.5 IBUs     -             
15.00 g          Cascade [6.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min                 Hop           7          7.5 IBUs      -             
5.00 g           Yeast Nutrient Powder (Boil 15.0 mins)           Other         8          -             -             
1.00 g           Whirlfloc Granulated (Boil 5.0 mins)             Fining        9          -             -             
1.0 pkg          Safale American US-05 (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50 Yeast         10         -             -             


Mash Schedule: BIABasket, Standard Mash 65 C for 60"
Total Grain Weight: 5.00 kg
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Name                    Description                           Step Temperature Step Time     
Mash Step               Add 40.06 L of water and heat to 65.0 65.0 C           60 min       

Busty Blonde Wort - resized.jpg

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35 minutes ago, iBooz2 said:

Boil Size: 37.00 L

Post Boil Volume: 29.50 L

Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 L

Seems like a lot lost through the boil.  But you might get more vigour in yours than I get.  I only lose about 3 L per hour.

Also leaving a fair bit in the kettle after filling the fermenter (cube).  Do you save it for starters or something?

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1 hour ago, iBooz2 said:

Its been a bit like a fresh wort factory around here this week.  ha ha😁

Hey Al it's probably better you are home brewing, at least it keeps you off the streets & out of the pubs 😄  It certainly is the case for me. My brew days aren't as complex as yours but it still takes time to get it rigt. Cheers.

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right 😬  I hate spelling mistakes & grammar faux pas.

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2 hours ago, CLASSIC said:

get it rigt

Love the irony right there 

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3 hours ago, Shamus O'Sean said:

Seems like a lot lost through the boil.  But you might get more vigour in yours than I get.  I only lose about 3 L per hour.

Also leaving a fair bit in the kettle after filling the fermenter (cube).  Do you save it for starters or something?

Those volumes are incorrect SOS, I have not updated the volumes in BeerSmith for a while now.  Pre-boil was actually 35 L, post-boil was 26.5 L, batch size was 23 L.  Plus its a big kettle being 460 mm in diameter.  I try to keep at just a rolling boil but my take on that means probably does have more vigor than necessary.

I bought 3 x 1 L reagent jars specifically for the purpose of jarring up some left over wort to be later used for starters and save on DME but have used them all for yeast trub washing recently so shot myself in the foot.  Next order I will grab about 4 more of these as it is such a waste of good wort.

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2 hours ago, CLASSIC said:

Hey Al it's probably better you are home brewing, at least it keeps you off the streets & out of the pubs 😄  It certainly is the case for me. My brew days aren't as complex as yours but it still takes time to get it rigt. Cheers.

Its a bit hard to do anything else here while VIC is in total lock down as we have been since last week.  Trouble is I am going to run out of grains if the lock down lasts for longer than end of next week.  I've got plenty of beer in kegs and now heaps of fresh wort's all cubed up ready and waiting for a vacant FV so all in all its not too bad.   Weather has been too wet and shitty to go fishing even if I was allowed to so brewing it is.😉

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11 minutes ago, iBooz2 said:

Its a bit hard to do anything else here while VIC is in total lock down as we have been since last week.  Trouble is I am going to run out of grains if the lock down lasts for longer than end of next week.  I've got plenty of beer in kegs and now heaps of fresh wort's all cubed up ready and waiting for a vacant FV so all in all its not too bad.   Weather has been too wet and shitty to go fishing even if I was allowed to so brewing it is.😉

Yeah I do hear you, the lockdown situation must be terribly frustrating, in SA we have experienced it but not as severe as you poor blokes, I feel for you. I hope it can sort itself out soon.

Meanwhile keep your chin up & happy brewing. Cheers.

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Coops Euro lager 1.7kg

Coops liquid light malt 1.5kg

250 gram LDM

200 gram carapils 45 min steep between 65 and 68 degrees at times

20 gram Hallertau traditional & 15 gram sazz 10 boil 5 steep lid off in hop ball.

19 litres OG 1.057 2 packs mangrove jacks Bavarian lager yeast 20 grams pitched at 17 brew fridge on 14 then will drop to 12 later. 

I usually aim for 12 or 14 to pitch cousin came around to help with something toward end so pitched it as was.

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it's my one year anniversary of starting brewing this weekend so i'm going back to where it all began, a can of cooper's lager and brew enhancer 1. just ordered for click and collect tomorrow 🙂

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5 minutes ago, Stickers said:

it's my one year anniversary of starting brewing this weekend so i'm going back to where it all began, a can of cooper's lager and brew enhancer 1. just ordered for click and collect tomorrow 🙂

even for the centimetal side why would u make crap thin cider tasting beer?

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1 minute ago, jamiek86 said:

even for the centimetal side why would u make crap thin cider tasting beer?

i want to experience how it tastes out of a keg and i'm a sentimental person 🙂

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28 minutes ago, Stickers said:

i want to experience how it tastes out of a keg and i'm a sentimental person 🙂

well said your probably on to something there I.reckon with out priming sugar it might be less on cider side

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30 minutes ago, Stickers said:

i want to experience how it tastes out of a keg and i'm a sentimental person 🙂

well said your probably on to something there I.reckon with out priming sugar it might be less on cider side

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Temperature control would probably help avoid the cidery flavours too. Priming sugar doesn't cause it. 

I'll be brewing again soon as well. My hops arrived yesterday from cheeky peak, a kilo of Saaz, and 200-250g amounts of Amarillo, Cascade, Centennial, and Citra so plenty of pale ales and pilsners in the pipeline. Next batch will be a red ale though. 

Too busy this weekend, next weekend I have to go buy a sack of pilsner malt and some keg fittings so I'll probably brew again in 2 weeks. 

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12 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said:

My hops arrived yesterday from cheeky peak, a kilo of Saaz, and 200-250g amounts of Amarillo, Cascade, Centennial, and Citra

Pretty happy with CPB's hops Kelsey? @Otto Von Blotto

Will need to put in an order eventually myself - interested in your thoughts mate... my experience in past w CPB Hops has been ok.

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Just now, Graubart said:

Pretty happy with CPB's hops Kelsey? @Otto Von Blotto

Will need to put in an order eventually - interested in your thoughts... my experience in past w CPB Hops has been ok.

Yeah, my last bigger order came from there as well and the beers were all fine. I sort of chop and change between them and Yakima valley hops, this time I used cheeky peak because I wanted the hop spider as well so it was easier to just make one order. They're also good if I want it delivered sooner being in the same country. Don't know of any places up here that do bulk amounts at a good price like that. 

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4 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said:

Yeah, my last bigger order came from there as well and the beers were all fine. I sort of chop and change between them and Yakima valley hops, this time I used cheeky peak because I wanted the hop spider as well so it was easier to just make one order. They're also good if I want it delivered sooner being in the same country. Don't know of any places up here that do bulk amounts at a good price like that. 

Yep cheeky peak are good for hops  @Graubart and so are beerco in my experience (hops and grain). Beerco are in Vic, not sure where you guys are. ..
From your posts I’ve always imagined you live in some beer nirvana existential state 🤪✌️

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1 hour ago, Tone boy said:

From your posts I’ve always imagined you live in some beer nirvana existential state 🤪✌️

Haha so correct TB luvyerwork... you have definitely defined the boundaries in the space time continuum which I frequent 🥳

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