paulgf Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I have brewed three or four lots using the supplied plastic bottles . After bottling i ensure the caps are tightened, however with this last batch every other bottle is flat, the others are good, Do you think its the bottles or know how long the plastic bottles should last? As some are good and others flat i am thinking it cant be the brew. Previously i have washed them in warm not hot water and a mild bleach solution. Many Thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozlizard Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I always get a few duds in each batch even though I tighten the lids as much as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBooz2 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 @paulgf After bottling my PET batches, rinse them down and dry off with a clean tea towel. before boxing them up always give one last tighten whilst they are wrapped in my tea towel. sometimes I get a little bit more torque and some snug up just that little bit more using this method. Wet hands and wet bottles/lids deceive sometimes. Give that a go next time. Have not had any bottles lack fizz yet even with re-used lids. Are you rinsing all the bleach residue out properly as any left over may kill your yeast? Rinse well then sanitize them with a no-rinse sanitiser, drain well and they should be good? Cheers - AL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Hey @paulgf, welcome to the forum. I have been using the same PET bottles for over three years now and apart from a handful, they are all doing fine. I always tighten the caps with a teatowel to protect my soft hands. With the bleach treatment make sure you rinse the bottles well and allow them to dry before refilling. Maybe see if you can get a-hold of some glass bottles (swing tops or crown seal type) to do a side by side comparison. Having half of the batch end up flat is hard to explain. Cheers Shamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Hi @paulgf As mentioned above, use a tea towel to give you added grip and ensure a tight seal. Also, how are you priming your bottles? Are you using 2 carbonation drops per long neck? If you are using more than recommended you could be increasing the amount of carbonation which can cause the seals to fail ie. too much gas. PSSSSSHHHHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Teatowel shmeetowel get rid of that. Hand tighten then with a pair of multigrips do a last 1/4 turn to really crank those babies. Never fails. Now that is tightening. Edited March 8, 2020 by MartyG1525230263 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worts and all Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Never had a problem with the plastics over many cycles. A firm hand grip tighten, and a final check of all bottles before storage has always been sufficient. Of course if you don’t have a firm hand grip, or tend to limpness of the wrists ,you may need some assistance- - - 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 hours ago, MartyG1525230263 said: Teatowel shmeetowel get rid of that. Hand tighten then with a pair of multigrips do a last 1/4 turn to really crank those babies. Never fails. Now that is tightening. Multigrips for tightening, very very frightening me. Galileo.... SWMBO is the bottler in the family and she hand tightens the PET bottles, without towels or anything and very, very rarely do we get a dud. And the's not the strongest wench out there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malter White Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Multigrips?!! There phrase "sledgehammer to crack a walnut" springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBooz2 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 4 hours ago, MartyG1525230263 said: Teatowel shmeetowel get rid of that. Hand tighten then with a pair of multigrips do a last 1/4 turn to really crank those babies. Never fails. Now that is tightening. I think Marty was "taking the piss" with multigrips. He was thinking of stillson wrench! Or was the stillson's for undoing the lids? Cheers - AL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 My daughter has the same issue but she has a mix of Coopers and Mangrove Jacks PETs. She's mixed up the lids between the two brands and is now starting to think it's maybe a problem with MJ lids on Coopers bottles. In total contrast however, I have well over 100 PET's of mixed brands (not Coopers though), some of which are years old and I find, like @Worts and all the lids don't need to be super tight to ensure a good seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 You can re prime the flat bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynealford Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I found that the white Morgan's lids developed splits from my first batch of GB, and the ones that haven't split are bulging on the sides and top. Have swapped over to Cooper's black lids, no further issues, much stiffer plastic and a bit thicker too. I agree that recranking with a teatowel for grip is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Lao Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 We have that rubbery material that you get in supermarkets and Bunnings for lining the bottom of cupboards and drawers etc. I use a small piece for undoing pickle jars , jam jars and to give the bottles a final nip up when bottling. Have used Coopers bottles for about 5 years, got new caps about 2 -3 years ago , no issues with carbonation. Some brews take longer but they are usually all squeeze tight after a week. Cheers James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Only issue I have had with under-carbed beers is when I go browsing before time - some brews even 2 weeks isn't enough to carb properly - but I have had no beers that are under-carbed at 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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