Marty_G Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Norris! said: Are victoria hops anything like vic secret or what aromas do you get from them? As far as I am aware Vic secret and Victoria are same same. Victoria they are an Aussie hop and are very similar to Galaxy. That is all I know from searching the literature. Pretty sure i did read that they a virtually the same. But the hop gurus will know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, MartyG1525230263 said: As far as I am aware Vic secret and Victoria are same same. Victoria they are an Aussie hop and are very similar to Galaxy. That is all I know from searching the literature. Pretty sure i did read that they a virtually the same. But the hop gurus will know. I thought they were very similar if not the same, but I just don't know. I will grow some though. Making plans for the treliss and the rhizomes for next year. I am thinking of centennial, Columbus, cascade and Victoria but I still have to build it and prepare the area. I build stuff like Ralph, from Simpsons spells. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, Norris! said: thought they were very similar if not the same, I was not 100% sure but I know I read that they are the same. Anyway maybe will use them as a dry hop in this brew. I have about 150g of them so might use 30g as a dry hop on this brew. Just need to make up my mind. Both Nugget and Victoria are dual purpose high AA% hops and I have 150g of each so will do a Nugget bittering with this brew and then do a victoria bittering for the one after and also swap the flavouring as well. If that makes sense? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Quote Recipe: Pale Ale Brewer: Grumpy Style: American Pale Ale TYPE: All Grain Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Batch Size (fermenter): 21.00 L Estimated OG: 1.046 SG Estimated Color: 16.9 EBC Estimated IBU: 40.1 IBUs Ingredients: ------------ Amt Name Type # %/IBU Volume 3.50 kg Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 1 86.4 % 2.28 L 0.50 kg Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 2 12.3 % 0.33 L 0.05 kg Roasted Malt (Joe White) (1199.7 EBC) Grain 3 1.2 % 0.03 L 30.00 g Amarillo [8.90 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 min Hop 4 9.4 IBUs - 30.00 g El Dorado [15.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 min Hop 5 15.8 IBUs - 30.00 g Mosaic (HBC 369) [14.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20 Hop 6 14.9 IBUs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsure on the yeast.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 12 hours ago, MartyG1525230263 said: As far as I am aware Vic secret and Victoria are same same. As far as I am aware they are not. Do some research on Dr Smurto's Golden Ale, he does state his home grown Victoria hop is not the same as the commercially available Vic Secret. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ben 10 said: As far as I am aware they are not. Do some research on Dr Smurto's Golden Ale, he does state his home grown Victoria hop is not the same as the commercially available Vic Secret. Yes I did read that last night. I think from memory the Victoria have more of a citrus grapefruit accent to them. As I said was not 100% sure. On this http://www.hopslist.com/hops/dual-purpose-hops/vic-secret/ they do say they are the same hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, MartyG1525230263 said: they do say they are the same hop. Maybe, AKA doesn't mean the homegrown Victoria hop is the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 @Greenie1525230093 @Ben 10 you young whipper snappers like to brew Belgian. Any of you have Leffe style all grain recipe. I have a free keg coming up and have always wanted to brew this beer as it’s been a personal favourite cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, PaddyBrew2 said: Any of you have Leffe style all grain recipe. I have a free keg coming up and have always wanted to brew this beer as it’s been a personal favourite Which one? There's quite a few beers by Leffe... I think their blond and brune are the more popular ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 apologies, the blonde. its quite easy to get over here which is great . it could be a struggle back home to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, PaddyBrew2 said: Any of you have Leffe style all grain recipe. Made one 5 years ago, no idea how it was so I won't share. Colour looks like it was way off anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, PaddyBrew2 said: apologies, the blonde. its quite easy to get over here which is great . it could be a struggle back home to get it Havent made this one in well over a year Paddy. I did a side by side with the real deal and while fairly close it was not exact. I found danstar abbaye yeast to be the most representative of the style as well. Start the ferment at about 18c and rise it over the course of the ferment to about 21c. I would also use styrian and saaz as i believe thats what the original uses. I think i just subbed it out with hallertau last time to get rid of the hops. Edited February 15, 2020 by Greeny1525229549 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Greeny1525229549 said: Havent made this one in well over a year Paddy. I did a side by side with the real deal and while fairly close it was not exact. I found danstar abbaye yeast to be the most representative of the style as well. Start the ferment at about 18c and rise it over the course of the ferment to about 21c. I would also use styrian and saaz as i believe thats what the original uses. I think i just subbed it out with hallertau last time to get rid of the hops. Legend. Cheers mate. I have hallertau left over myself but I’ll get the styrian and saaz. I shall brew this up once me English bitter keg is free which is about two weeks away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Quote Recipe: Untitled Recipe Brewer: Grumpy Style: American Pale Ale Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Batch Size (fermenter): 21.00 L Estimated OG: 1.065 SG Estimated Color: 7.6 EBC Estimated IBU: 53.1 IBUs Ingredients: ------------ Amt Name Type # %/IBU Volume 5.00 kg Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 1 83.3 % 3.26 L 1.00 kg Rye Malt (Weyermann) (5.9 EBC) Grain 2 16.7 % 0.65 L 20.00 g Mosaic (HBC 369) [14.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 3 28.4 IBUs - 3.65 g Brewbrite (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 4 - - 50.00 g Amarillo [8.90 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 min Hop 5 13.4 IBUs - 25.00 g El Dorado [15.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 min Hop 6 11.3 IBUs - Unknown dry hop, unknown yeast as yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ben 10 said: Unknown dry hop, unknown yeast as yet US-05/WLP001/Wyeast 1056/M44 (No I don't recommend BRY-97) for the yeast if you want the "American Pale Ale" style. For the dry hop I'd use Amarillo with ONE of those two other hops, but not both. Mosaic & El Dorado appear to have a bit of overlap into the "stone fruit/tropical fruit" aromas so using equal weights of all three hops for the dry hop could make this aspect quite dominant, negating the use of Amarillo to some degree & possibly diminishing it's final aroma impact. Or just use something completely different. That's the joy of brewing your own beer,....no limits. P.S. If you would like to try all three hops for the dry hop, just make the Amarillo weight equal to the combined dry hop weight of the Mosaic & El Dorado. Just my 20 cents, Lusty. Edited February 15, 2020 by Beerlust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Beerlust said: US-05/WLP001/Wyeast 1056/M44 More like a saison, belgian pale or kveik for me, whatever I find in the fridge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Quote Recipe: Catharina Sour Brewer: Grumpy Style: Wild Specialty Beer TYPE: All Grain Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Batch Size (fermenter): 21.00 L Estimated OG: 1.067 SG Estimated Color: 6.7 EBC Estimated IBU: 7.0 IBUs Ingredients: ------------ Amt Name Type # %/IBU Volume 3.50 kg Pilsner (Weyermann) (3.3 EBC) Grain 1 58.3 % 2.28 L 2.50 kg Wheat Malt (Barrett Burston) (3.0 EBC) Grain 2 41.7 % 1.63 L 5.00 g Mosaic (HBC 369) [14.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 3 7.0 IBUs - 3.65 g Brewbrite (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 4 - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saison yeast and some fruit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Ben you must have a hole in your knee or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 21 hours ago, Ben 10 said: Unknown dry hop, unknown yeast as yet 18 hours ago, Beerlust said: US-05/WLP001/Wyeast 1056/M44... 7 hours ago, Ben 10 said: More like a saison, belgian pale or kveik for me, whatever I find in the fridge. 21 hours ago, Ben 10 said: Recipe: Untitled Recipe Brewer: Grumpy Style: American Pale Ale Sorry mate. What was I thinking? How dumb of me to offer that suggestion. Lusty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, Beerlust said: Sorry mate. What was I thinking? LOL, I just used the style guidelines because.... umm.... something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, PaddyBrew2 said: Ben you must have a hole in your knee or something Nah, other issues though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, PaddyBrew2 said: Ben you must have a hole in your knee or something Well with that much constant beer in the pipelines, it was always going to burst somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I just fund out my new fridge will take 2 x FV's side-by-side so tomorrow the brew day will be for 2 brews. I've got 10L water for each chilling in the fridge. Had a busy day so didn't get bottling done and my 3rd FV still has the Exbeeriment in it. So tomorrow will be another go at the Coopers XPA clone, closer to original recipe this time, and the "Soft Kicker" the missus likes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Put down a quick one this afternoon. 19L batch. 3.5kg of pale malt. 0.5kg wheat malt. 40 min boil with Irish moss at 10 min. 60gm of galaxy and 40gm of mosaic at FO with a stand of 20 mins. Will be fermented with a 2L starter of CCA at 18c with a dry hop of 30gm each of galaxy and mosaic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice79 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 10:06 PM, MartyG1525230263 said: As far as I am aware Vic secret and Victoria are same same. Victoria they are an Aussie hop and are very similar to Galaxy. That is all I know from searching the literature. Pretty sure i did read that they a virtually the same. But the hop gurus will know. From my understanding victoria hops are different than Vic Secret and were a part of the same breeding program as Galaxy so they are have similar parents. Like grapes, the terroir (soil and climate) has an impact on the flavour etc of the hops. Our Adelaide hills version could be described as peach, melon, apricot and loquat. Makes a tasty IPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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