Beerlust Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) What is your favourite commercial American styled Pale Ale & why do you like it so much? Tell us as much as you know about what's in it & how it is made etc. Cheers, Lusty. Edited July 26, 2019 by Beerlust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 This was a very hard question to answer, and I’m not sure I can fully as I don’t have one favourite. I like variety like a lot of people on this forum. If I had to pick one, I’d go with Sierra Nevada pale, why, because it’s a classic! Maybe considered the original in modern times. I guess the only thing I don’t like about it is the crystal oxidised taste you get with it, I don’t get it all the time but I’d say it comes from mistreatment of the product on the trip over and storage from there before purchase. Every time I have one, I say to myself, this is just good beer. Another thing I like about the brewery is that they are environmentally conscious. Producing their own power, treating the waste and growing their own food for the restaurant. The beer itself is fairly simple, 92% Pale malt 8% crystal, cascade hops and white labs 001 Chico strain yeast. Simples yeah????? Well........apparently....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Where's the Perle and Magnum they use in it? That one is one of my favorites as well. Must do another batch soon. Another one I like a lot is 4 Pines pale ale. Consistently decent, goes down easily. The pricks changed the labels a bit ago but before that they listed Cascade, Citra, simcoe and Amarillo as the hops. I have a clone recipe on the desktop, so will have to give that a go too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 American Pale Ales to me are a beer with a message and that message is avoid ... not a fan at all of the New World hops ... like so many things American they do it in excess and the strong citrus/grapefruit and passion fruit flavours in American Style Ales are just over the top ... Americans have this obsession of taking something that is great as it is and trying to make it there own they do it with dog breeds, American Staffordshire Bull terrier (exactly where is Staffordshire in America) and they do it with beers and the hops they have created over the last 50 years while pleasant in balanced quantities are used with far to heavy a hand in their Pale Ales ... Cascade is a hop i like least. Centennial I use in ales as a dry hop to balance European hops I use in FO and I have also used Amarillo ... for mine American Pale Ales I have experienced lack finesse ... maybe they are for a younger demographic ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Otto Von Blotto said: 4 Pines pale ale problem I find they are not session-able beers ... can only have a couple before they become "sickly" for want of a better expression ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 They probably came about originally as a reaction against all the bland crap. They were one of the first craft styles I got into and I still love them. I don't think they're aimed at any age bracket, go to any beer fest and there are people of all ages enjoying them. I don't find them over the top, in most cases anyway. The best ones to me have a good malt backbone, firm bitterness and a decent fruity flavour and aroma, but all in balance with each other. I don't like NEIPAs, because they just taste like carbonated fruit juice, and don't look much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab Cat Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I'm 4 Pines fan in summer. I like Sierra a lot but at the price, it's the sort of beer that pushed me towards home brew. The craft beer explosion is also built around APAs and I've giving up trying new ones, there's a lot of average out there. As Marty rightly says, too many are going right over the edge with citrus to stand out and brewing beerzillas like IIIIPAs. I prefer a bit of restraint and balance. Squires Hop Thief was really good in the earlier versions, but seems to have got blander, which is odd, given how the market (and other brewers) has gone hop crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Lao Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 My go to is probably hard to pick but can get it to a top 5 ( I like doing top fives in everything - music, food etc) Adnams Ghost ship 4 pines pale ale Gage Roads Little Dove Gage Roads Atomic Colonial Pale Ale Most of the beers I really like usually have Citra in them. Before I started brewing I probably had a similar view as Marty but now I love the new world hops! Can’t seem to take the NEIPAs or the Sours yet though- don’t know if I ever will., but PA, IPA and IIPAs I can drink every day Cheers James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltop hops Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 My top 3 Mismatch Pale Big shed F Yeah Pirate Life Pale Can you tell I'm a South Aussie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Corner Brewing Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Hilltop hops said: My top 3 Mismatch Pale Big shed F Yeah Pirate Life Pale Can you tell I'm a South Aussie! If you had of said Coopers Pale, then I might believe you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltop hops Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, NewBrews said: If you had of said Coopers Pale, then I might believe you I love my Coopers but we're talking APAs! My uncle reckons the West End Red Tins are the nectar of the gods. He's definitely an old school South Aussie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Lao Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I can understand preferring your local States beers! 3 of my top 5 are West Aussie! Cheers James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltop hops Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Just now, James Lao said: I can understand preferring your local States beers! 3 of my top 5 are West Aussie! Cheers James No Feral Brewing beers in your list? Hop Hogs a great beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Where's the Perle and Magnum they use in it? Hmmm maybe it is really all cascade....... I thought it had some magnum and peels in it too but no.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Lao Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Damn it!! Forgot about Hop Hog, love it on tap! Might have to drop Adnams out and make it 4/5 West Aussie Brews! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I do like an Anchor Liberty Ale (now called IPA) ... Edit: Just checked their website and maybe they still make Liberty Ale as I remember it - https://www.anchorbrewing.com/beer/liberty_ale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Captain!! said: Hmmm maybe it is really all cascade....... I thought it had some magnum and peels in it too but no.? Magnum at the start. Perle in the middle and cascade at the end with a cascade dry hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I really liked Matilda Bay Alpha, but that seems to be long gone. So now probably BentSpoke Crankshaft. Which I believe they call a West Coast IPA, but is definitely not. It is a great West Coast Pale Ale though. Cheers, John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 hours ago, The Captain!! said: Hmmm maybe it is really all cascade....... I thought it had some magnum and peels in it too but no.? What greeny said except the commercial one isn't dry hopped. I notice on their website that the hops are listed as only Cascade, they used to have Magnum and Perle listed as well which I guess is why most of the clone recipes have them included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Greeny1525229549 said: Magnum at the start. Perle in the middle and cascade at the end with a cascade dry hop. That’s exactly as I make it but thought I’d post the recipe for discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, The Captain!! said: That’s exactly as I make it but thought I’d post the recipe for discussion Interesting. You would think using all cascade would smash there profit margins. They would be using much less overall hops using magnum and perle compared to all cascade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Greeny1525229549 said: Interesting. You would think using all cascade would smash there profit margins. They would be using much less overall hops using magnum and perle compared to all cascade. I’m also guessing that the amount of cascade they would need compared to magnum cost wise may offset that due to shear amount purchased? Maybe not at that level. I could imagine they don’t pay anywhere near what Homebrewers pay per g for hops. Now hop selection would be an amazing thing to be part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, porschemad911 said: I really liked Matilda Bay Alpha, but that seems to be long gone. So now probably BentSpoke Crankshaft. Which I believe they call a West Coast IPA, but is definitely not. It is a great West Coast Pale Ale though. Cheers, John The Alpha was an awesome beer. It’s a shame it has gone but it probably would have been watered down by CUB so perhaps it is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzala Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Panhead Supercharger is my current favourite APA. Centennial, Citra, Simcoe hops - that’s about all I know... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Gazzala said: Panhead Supercharger is my current favourite APA. Centennial, Citra, Simcoe hops - that’s about all I know... Fantastic beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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