Jump to content
Yuley

Swapping APA with Bootmaker

Recommended Posts

Hi All

I was given a can of Bootmaker Pale Ale, looking at the recipe spready was thinking of swapping it in for a Australian Pale Ale recipe.

Anyone had any experience in doing something similar?

Cheers!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I haven't done it but should be fine ... after all, the recipe is only adding some hops and using a specific yeast ...  once you get the hang of recipes and find the hops you like and dislike .... my self not a fan of most of the new world hops ... you will end up with a selection of hops in the freezer and a bank of harvested yeast you can pretty much pimp up any of kits to your taste ...  most of us here would have a yeast bank and hops on hand ...  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Depends what you're looking for?  In terms of style, the APA is a light, dry pale ale based on Cooper's Green.  IMO it doesn't taste any good without the Cooper's reactivated yeast.

The Bootmaker I like much better, it's more of a big bold more flavoursome US style pale ale.  It reminds me a bit of 4 Pines, if 4 Pines came out of a can and lacked body and hop profile.  Good news is you can put those back in.

If what you mean is you're gonna try to make an APA recipe with the bootmaker kit I don't think it will turn out what you're looking for.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
33 minutes ago, Beervis said:

If what you mean is you're gonna try to make an APA recipe with the bootmaker kit I don't think it will turn out what you're looking for.

totally get what you are saying here ... but with the prevalence of new world hops being used in so many craft beer styles there is a huge blurring of the boundaries in what style is which ... or is my perception wrong with that ... 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks gents.

Was thinking about brewing a Golden Ale, using Bootmaker can instead of the APA can. 

With LDM, Amarillo hops, Crystal Malt and BRY-97 yeast

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 minutes ago, Yuley said:

Golden Ale, using Bootmaker can instead of the APA can. 

Will not the Bootmaker be too dark to make a Golden Ale ...  will it not be more of an Amber ale ... 

Edited by MartyG1525230263
  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
35 minutes ago, MartyG1525230263 said:

Will not the Bootmaker be too dark to make a Golden Ale ...  will it not be more of an Amber ale ... 

Damn. Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why would it be an amber ale? It's a pale ale kit. Just keep the additional crystal malt on the lighter end and you should be ok. 

Mind you I don't see much difference in color between pale ales and golden ales anyway, they're pretty similar to each other. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

From memory it's very amber-y for a pale ale, quite reddish.  That recipe should still turn out nice though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said:

Why would it be an amber ale?

When I wrote that I had checked the EBC of the brews on the Coopers recipe pages and the Bootmaker was 130 and the Golden was 12 ... just checked and that must be a typo as they have the IBU of the Bootmaker as 560 ... so I checked the spreadsheet and the EBC of the Bootmaker is actually 13 so you are correct will be fine ...  i did research it before my comment but the info was misleading ... 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The quoted kit EBC is the same as the IBUs, being the concentrated figure. It's worked out the same way though; EBC X 1.7 ÷ brew volume. In 23 litres it'd be nearly 10 for the kit itself, plus whatever the malt additions provide. 

130 EBC in the glass would be black as the ace of spades. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said:

130 EBC in the glass would be black as the ace of spades. 

Yes I know, in my defense it was like 5.30 am at the time and I was only on my second coffee ...  

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That is why I like forums, even if you make a mistake someone from somewhere will help out and correct it. It is all good and helps the flow of knowledge.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hahah, yeah I don't understand the need to be rude on forums. I try to speak the same way I would in person and not use the screen as a shield. Respect and courtesy goes a long way in this world. No one knows everything so I take the advice and try to use it later. I actually like when I am wrong so I learn something new! So pretty much hourly I am learning something...

  • Like 3
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I remember reading somewhere that the Bootmaker has American style hops (Cascade?) and results in an American style pale ale.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I say give it a go, worse case you get beer. Sometimes you even get better beer!

let us know how it goes

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
44 minutes ago, alilley said:

Bootmaker is a great kit with just LDM. Really nice.

Thats what I did with it, as per the tin instructions, my 2nd brew. I found it too sweet and syrupy. Needed hops to balance it. As was pointed out to me when discussing a different kit, the Bootmaker IBUs are pretty low, so not much inherent bitterness.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks all. Brew is in the FV. Was a much more productive use of time last night than watching the cricket. 

Will let you know how it goes. 

I stuffed up the rehydrating the yeast, and didn't use warm water - but reading online today it should be fine. 🤞

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...