Yuley Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Hi All I was given a can of Bootmaker Pale Ale, looking at the recipe spready was thinking of swapping it in for a Australian Pale Ale recipe. Anyone had any experience in doing something similar? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I haven't done it but should be fine ... after all, the recipe is only adding some hops and using a specific yeast ... once you get the hang of recipes and find the hops you like and dislike .... my self not a fan of most of the new world hops ... you will end up with a selection of hops in the freezer and a bank of harvested yeast you can pretty much pimp up any of kits to your taste ... most of us here would have a yeast bank and hops on hand ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beervis Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Depends what you're looking for? In terms of style, the APA is a light, dry pale ale based on Cooper's Green. IMO it doesn't taste any good without the Cooper's reactivated yeast. The Bootmaker I like much better, it's more of a big bold more flavoursome US style pale ale. It reminds me a bit of 4 Pines, if 4 Pines came out of a can and lacked body and hop profile. Good news is you can put those back in. If what you mean is you're gonna try to make an APA recipe with the bootmaker kit I don't think it will turn out what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, Beervis said: If what you mean is you're gonna try to make an APA recipe with the bootmaker kit I don't think it will turn out what you're looking for. totally get what you are saying here ... but with the prevalence of new world hops being used in so many craft beer styles there is a huge blurring of the boundaries in what style is which ... or is my perception wrong with that ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuley Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Thanks gents. Was thinking about brewing a Golden Ale, using Bootmaker can instead of the APA can. With LDM, Amarillo hops, Crystal Malt and BRY-97 yeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Yuley said: Golden Ale, using Bootmaker can instead of the APA can. Will not the Bootmaker be too dark to make a Golden Ale ... will it not be more of an Amber ale ... Edited July 8, 2019 by MartyG1525230263 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuley Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, MartyG1525230263 said: Will not the Bootmaker be too dark to make a Golden Ale ... will it not be more of an Amber ale ... Damn. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Why would it be an amber ale? It's a pale ale kit. Just keep the additional crystal malt on the lighter end and you should be ok. Mind you I don't see much difference in color between pale ales and golden ales anyway, they're pretty similar to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beervis Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 From memory it's very amber-y for a pale ale, quite reddish. That recipe should still turn out nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Why would it be an amber ale? When I wrote that I had checked the EBC of the brews on the Coopers recipe pages and the Bootmaker was 130 and the Golden was 12 ... just checked and that must be a typo as they have the IBU of the Bootmaker as 560 ... so I checked the spreadsheet and the EBC of the Bootmaker is actually 13 so you are correct will be fine ... i did research it before my comment but the info was misleading ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The quoted kit EBC is the same as the IBUs, being the concentrated figure. It's worked out the same way though; EBC X 1.7 ÷ brew volume. In 23 litres it'd be nearly 10 for the kit itself, plus whatever the malt additions provide. 130 EBC in the glass would be black as the ace of spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: 130 EBC in the glass would be black as the ace of spades. Yes I know, in my defense it was like 5.30 am at the time and I was only on my second coffee ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 That is why I like forums, even if you make a mistake someone from somewhere will help out and correct it. It is all good and helps the flow of knowledge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 At least here everyone is respectful ... been on may for various topics and it is not so ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Hahah, yeah I don't understand the need to be rude on forums. I try to speak the same way I would in person and not use the screen as a shield. Respect and courtesy goes a long way in this world. No one knows everything so I take the advice and try to use it later. I actually like when I am wrong so I learn something new! So pretty much hourly I am learning something... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerveja Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I remember reading somewhere that the Bootmaker has American style hops (Cascade?) and results in an American style pale ale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Cascade and a bit of Styrian Goldings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermoor Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I say give it a go, worse case you get beer. Sometimes you even get better beer! let us know how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilley Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Bootmaker is a great kit with just LDM. Really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab Cat Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, alilley said: Bootmaker is a great kit with just LDM. Really nice. Thats what I did with it, as per the tin instructions, my 2nd brew. I found it too sweet and syrupy. Needed hops to balance it. As was pointed out to me when discussing a different kit, the Bootmaker IBUs are pretty low, so not much inherent bitterness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuley Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Thanks all. Brew is in the FV. Was a much more productive use of time last night than watching the cricket. Will let you know how it goes. I stuffed up the rehydrating the yeast, and didn't use warm water - but reading online today it should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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