Tyfab Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Hi Lads, So I am doing my 2nd S&W clone batch with Galaxy this time. Same ingredient: Coopers Mexican Larger 1.7Kg Coopers Wheat 1.7Kg Dextrose 500g 50g Galaxy Dry Hop @ 7 days Us-05 Yeast The previous batch was great but a bit light to my liking, not much punch of bitterness. Would you recommend to boil the can of wheat and to additions of hops to leverage the bitter? Cheers, Fabien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussiekraut Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Too light as in not bitter enough or not enough body? In case of the latter, I'd replace the 500g dextrose with LDM. It'll have a slightly lower ABV but more body. For more bitterness, you could boil the LDM/Dextrose and add some Galaxy hops in for a 15 minute boil. You can boil up the can as well (not the kit!), which should give you a little more hop utilisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Actually you'd get more hop utilisation without the can. The higher the SG of the boil wort the lower the utilisation is. In any case, the Pacific ale isn't all that bitter anyway, although it would likely be more than the Mexican kit. You wouldn't need much extra bitterness to get it similar to the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris! Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Tyfab said: Hi Lads, So I am doing my 2nd S&W clone batch with Galaxy this time. Same ingredient: Coopers Mexican Larger 1.7Kg Coopers Wheat 1.7Kg Dextrose 500g 50g Galaxy Dry Hop @ 7 days Us-05 Yeast The previous batch was great but a bit light to my liking, not much punch of bitterness. Would you recommend to boil the can of wheat and to additions of hops to leverage the bitter? Cheers, Fabien I would try either a flameout addition with 25g of galaxy. If you do that then, use about 600g of the wheat lme in 5l of water and boil for 10 to 5 minutes turn off the heat and the hops and move the pot off the burner and let steep for 15 to 20 minutes. Then cool off with ice and cool water. That should bring some bitterness and more flavour and aroma. Good luck Norris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Tyfab said: Hi Lads, So I am doing my 2nd S&W clone batch with Galaxy this time. Same ingredient: Coopers Mexican Larger 1.7Kg Coopers Wheat 1.7Kg Dextrose 500g 50g Galaxy Dry Hop @ 7 days Us-05 Yeast The previous batch was great but a bit light to my liking, not much punch of bitterness. Would you recommend to boil the can of wheat and to additions of hops to leverage the bitter? Cheers, Fabien Maybe give this Coopers DIY recipe a go... https://www.diybeer.com/au/recipe/pacific-summer-ale.html This recipe has been one of the most popular DIY recipes in recent years over the Summer months. It'll hit the targets I think you're looking for. Cheers & good brewing, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Beerlust said: Maybe give this Coopers DIY recipe a go... https://www.diybeer.com/au/recipe/pacific-summer-ale.html This recipe has been one of the most popular DIY recipes in recent years over the Summer months. It'll hit the targets I think you're looking for. Cheers & good brewing, Lusty. @Tyfab the recipe Lusty posted looks good actually, Summer is a nice hop and would go well with Galaxy. Unfortunately I don't think it is grown commercially any more, but will probably still be available for a little while. If substituting and following the original recipe, try to find something at around the same 6% AA. Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBooz2 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Was not Summer hops a relation or derivative of SAAZ family? Could SAAZ be used instead? I have this summer ale as one of my TDB's (to do brews) and would be interested in a replacement hops as my two x LHBS do not stock Summer. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I'm not sure Saaz would give the same flavour, think pilsner Urquell or Stella Artois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 If you can't get hold of Summer hops, perhaps try a mix of Cascade & Ahtanum. It won't be exactly the same, but should get you somewhere in the same ballpark (IMHO). Or if you're game to try something new, maybe give Cashmere a go. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/26/2019 at 3:48 PM, Beerlust said: Cashmere Gonna get me some for a saison and a pale/IPA this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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