bennysbrew Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Hi all Do people find any difference in muslin bag and commando dry hopping? I used to just throw them in, but last batch I used a bag for first time. Taste test last night was a bit underwhelming . Having said that I have been buying a lot of hoppy beers recently , so perhaps in comparison mine was a bit weak .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I think it’s definitely better dry hopping commando but I think peoples preference comes down to whether or not they reuse yeast and what type of fermenter they have and how they get their beer out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I did commando then I had such a bad experience with a beer at bottling time that it ended up as lawn food. I always dry hop in a bag to keep the hop matter out of my beer. At the same time, it’s a big sack, (pun intended) to keep them as loose as possible. Ill be trying the squeeze method again this next brew to see how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#granted+brew Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I've only commandoed my hops once, in my last batch of ipa. I was not overly impressed.. No blockages like the captain had, but tasting some grassy notes I've never experienced to date which I'm not too keen on. Not sure if it was the hop types i used that dont like the extra time in the f.v. Contact time was 9 days total, 3 at ferment temps and 6 days at cold crash. Hops used were Mosaic, Galaxy and Cascade and only a small amount 50g combined total weight. Before that I'd only ever used the chux cloth method for containing them and always use the tried and tested ' @Beerlust' squeeze upon removing and then another dip and squeeze. I use a powder free food handling glove with a spray of sanitiser on it. Cheers, Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I read the topic title half asleep earlier, almost thought it said something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 John Matrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernerdy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I have a hop ball I use for dry hopping.. having said that it all ends up as green goo anyway. I find if I use a muslin bag anywhere in the brew process il have to throw it away after as its to hard to clean for next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I always used a bag or stocking to dry hop until a couple of years ago. Then I switched to commando with no problems. My current batch was dry hopped with 110g and was fine. I don’t know if it makes a big difference to the finished beer but it is certainly easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSands Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I started out bagging the hops then later tried commando and thought it made a notable difference. However, I do get a bit of floating hop debris finding its way into the bottles which from a purely aesthetic perspective I find a bit off-putting. I then read the brulosophy article that compared the two methods which concluded there was no difference, so I've since gone back to bagging them up... well, just the once as I'm now actually trying to produce a suitable hoppy PA without relying on dry hops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennysbrew Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Thanks everyone. Well I'll bag another one, bottling is a pita when commando, especially the last few litres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Corner Brewing Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 20 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: I read the topic title half asleep earlier, almost thought it said something else Didn’t have my glasses on - same result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettmo Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Are people having bottling issues cold crashing? I imagine cold crashing would drop most, if not all debris out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristinaS1 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Depends on how long you cold crash (a week works for me), and how you bottle. I have always dry hopped commando style, because I figure they must work better that way, but am about to try bagging for the first time with the batch currently in the FV. The reason is that I always get hops in my bottling wand. I bulk prime. To do this I first have to rack to a bottling bucket with an auto-siphon. Inevitably this ends up sucking up a certain amount of hops from the bottom of the FV. I am tired of the bottling wand malfunctioning due to hop matter and just want to give the bag thing a try. Cheers, Christina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 What sort of issues are you having with bottling and cold crashing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos_1984 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I've done both commando and in a bag. Regardless of cold crash times when going commando, I could never get all hop matter to settle to the bottom. Still got floaties and stuff stuck in the bottling wand. To get around this in bottling day, I would boil up and sanitise my grain bag and line it in a second FV. Then use a sanitised food grade hose to transfer from the FV to the second one with the grain bag. This would catch all hop matter and I'd just pull the bag out and then bottle the beer from the second FV with no issues. Could also bulk prime at the same time. I've only recently gone back to bagging hops with a santised chux cloth, with a couple of dunk n squeezes done prior to bottling and this works really well and is easy to clean up. I'll probably keep doing this as bottling takes less time this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potatoes Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/31/2019 at 8:00 AM, bennysbrew said: Hi all Do people find any difference in muslin bag and commando dry hopping? I used to just throw them in, but last batch I used a bag for first time. Taste test last night was a bit underwhelming . Having said that I have been buying a lot of hoppy beers recently , so perhaps in comparison mine was a bit weak .. Do you use pellets or leafy hops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennysbrew Posted April 1, 2019 Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Potatoes said: Do you use pellets or leafy hops? Just pellets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyj3 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hi all, thought I’d add to the conversation. I have been dry hopping the bejesus out of my brews lately, with fantastic results. Some of the best beer around. I’m using FW kit from all Inn brewing. Probably 2 years now. I recently informed my wife I had a buyer lined up for all my equipment. She said ‘kinidiot, so I told the bloke too bad, and got a fresh wort today. That said..... I use the tea bag method inserting them into the brew via a muslin bag, available at all good Asian supermarkets at about $4 for a pack of 3. Big suckers too! Each day I give the bag a jiggle to get all that hoppy goodness into the wort, and leave it in for 3 days. Only because I read somewhere that was the timeline. Happy to be corrected here. When retrieving the the hops back out, I use a colander or the plastic thingy that ricotta cheese come in, pour a kettle of boiling water through the colander and then squeeze the ball of hops to get the last of the goodness into the wort. Chuck the rements into the worm farm. Bottle whenever. Today I thought I could find hops at a better price than the $10/12 for a bottle (from the fridge) at my brew shop. Glory hallelujah, eBay has a company using them as a store front. Country Traders Store which sell hops by the kilo, and at around $70 I purchased Falconers Flight hops, which sounds pretty grand. Has anyone ever used them? Hoplist.com (New IPad, lost a large amount of the latter part of this post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I use one of these and it is brilliant: https://www.grainandgrape.com.au/products/category/MEGXEDAG-miscellaneous/7HOP TUBE--hop-tube Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popo the Reprobate Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, tonyj3 said: She said ‘kinidiot, Haha. I've had some good results with dry hopping those FWK with a large amount too. Always a crowd pleaser when I'm short on brew time. I can vouch for Brewman if you are after smaller than 1kg. They sell 225g bags for a pretty reasonable price and service has been fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 59 minutes ago, tonyj3 said: I purchased Falconers Flight hops, which sounds pretty grand. Has anyone ever used them? Yep, it is a great hop blend. It was my go to hop for IPAs a number of years ago. I haven’t used it for a few years though, I really should revisit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyj3 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Thank POPO, mate of mine will take half, which means he’ll pay for the next one. but I will take note for future reference. porchemad. I like it, that’s tomorrows crusade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyj3 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Reading about the hop tube, looks like a no brainer. thanks hairy, got an IPA for tomorrows list of jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I think chux may subdue the hop taste, compared to commando, from my experiences of 50 batches, or so, dry hopping. But commando introduces all kinds of kegging (I'm told) problems, plus we have the yeast harvest issue. The "Lusty" chux squeeze method, does bring the aroma/flavour equation back to some process balance, but you will need to use a few extra grams of our favourite flower. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Falconers Flight I’ve found goes really well with rye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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