Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Hi, Open to comments or suggestion for this one. Coopers IPA kit Crystal 300g steeped for 30 minutes Citra 5g @ 60 minutes Galaxy 5g @ 60 minutes Citra 30g @ 60 minutes Galaxy 30g @ 60 minutes LDME 1KG Maltodextrin 500g Dextrose 450g US05 Predicted OG 1.056 IBU 52.0 FG 1.018 EBC 17.3 Bottle 5.4% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I don’t get your 60 minute additions. Have you made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 With your recipe, 30g of citra & galaxy @ 60 minutes gets 132 IBU's. Without these additions, I get your calculations, should these be dry hopped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Most likley. added at the 60 minute mark of the boil after the 30 minute steep? Prior to moving to the Fermenter, and adding the LDME, Dex & Kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Smash said: With your recipe, 30g of citra & galaxy @ 60 minutes gets 132 IBU's. Without these additions, I get your calculations, should these be dry hopped? Copy paste error ;( Second set was Dry Hop: Citra 5g @ 60 minutes Galaxy 5g @ 60 minutes Citra 30g - DRY HOP Galaxy 30g - DRY HOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernerdy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Not that your boiling much but have heard that Galaxy isnt a good hop to boil a few times. Maybe just use it to dry hop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 So reduce the boil time to 30 minutes then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernerdy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Id nix the galaxy in the boil and just dry hop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 ok thanks, is that enough hops quantity wise for boil and dry hop? I was thinking some Mosaic maybe too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'd drop the maltodextrin as well, replace it with dry malt. It'll be a better beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernerdy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Kenks said: ok thanks, is that enough hops quantity wise for boil and dry hop? I was thinking some Mosaic maybe too? Question how many brews have you done ? Looks like only 5 posts but some people bide without ever using the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Only my third brew. First was a pale ale, second a stone and wood clone with mini mash an galaxy. Now I'm after an IPA with some hop kick. @Otto Von Blotto so up the Dry malt with equivalent weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernerdy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Ok cool.. ive only been doing it for 6 months. Best advise is to follow known recipes.. ive gone my own way with a few brews now and havent been thrilled. Will be following recipes so I dont over complicate things like I have previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Yeah for sure, will do that one but tried to piece this one together from a few different IPA ones I've found with Hops I know (or have had in beers) Revised Recipe: Coopers IPA kit Crystal 300g steeped for 30 minutes Citra 5g @ 60 minutes Galaxy 5g @ 60 minutes Citra 30g @ DRY HOP Galaxy 30g @ DRY HOP LDME 1.5 KG Dextrose 500g US05 Predicted OG 1.057 IBU 52.0 FG 1.012 EBC 18.0 %alc Keg 5.9 Bottle 6.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I would skip the 60 minute additions. After steeping the grain, bring the liquid to boil, turn off the heat and add the 5g Galaxy and Citra. Let it sit for 20 minutes and then strain it into the fermenter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Lowers the FG as you've posted in the updated recipe there. 1.018 would be too thick and heavy unless it was a really big IPA, but for the standard ones around 1.012-14 is a good FG I find. You'd be advised to pitch more than the kit yeast at it too, maybe grab a pack of US-05 yeast to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Kenks said: Now I'm after an IPA with some hop kick What sort of hop kick are you after? A fruity flavour or bitterness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Thanks everyone,! @Hairy thanks. I think I had my terminology wrong. I meant at flame off, some places refer to it as 60 minutes or the end of your boil. @Otto Von Blotto awesome thanks. Yeah I was planning on using US-05, I've used it in all the others so far and very happy with the way it works after rehydration (lots of action the next day) @Smash apologies, I'm after Fruity, Floral, Tropical flavours, with some bitterness but not lasting on the tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Pitch both yeasts mate. You'll need them to get through all those sugars. I think those places are confusing themselves. 60 minutes means 60 minutes from the end of the boil. End of the boil is obviously just that, aka flameout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I think you might want more 'late hops' in your boil to get the fruity flavours you're after. Try adding more Citra and Galaxy around 10-15 minutes before the end of boil, as Otto said above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 great thanks again, lots to learn! When yo say more hops, do you mean bump them up to 20g each then more in dry hop? I've seen some recipes with over 100g's of each hop in dry hops but I don't know how much is enouigh and how much is too much Citra 20g @ 10 minutes before boil end Galaxy 20g @ 10 minutes before boil end Citra 30g @ DRY HOP Galaxy 30g @ DRY HOP During boil will also add to the bitterness of the beer right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Those 10 minute boiled hops will add some bitterness but given the amount of fermentables it shouldn't be unbalanced or too bitter. You could also add some at flameout and increase the dry hop to 40-50g each, or you could leave it as is to see how it goes and have a play around with the hop additions next batch to see the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just a quick question: 2kg of fermentables 1.5kg LDM and 500g Dex isn't that a heap of sugars to get through and wouldn't it leave the brew quite sweet ... wouldn't it be better to drop the Dex and keep the maltodextrin to give better body and mouth feel and also reduce the ABV to about 5.5% ... this is a not a suggestion it is a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenks Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, MartyG1525230263 said: Just a quick question: 2kg of fermentables 1.5kg LDM and 500g Dex isn't that a heap of sugars to get through and wouldn't it leave the brew quite sweet ... wouldn't it be better to drop the Dex and keep the maltodextrin to give better body and mouth feel and also reduce the ABV to about 5.5% ... this is a not a suggestion it is a question? Hey, this was the revised recipe. Based on the Spreadsheet if I dropped the Dex and kept the Malto, the result wouldl mean the FG was too high? Revised Recipe: Coopers IPA kit Crystal 300g steeped for 30 minutes Citra 5g @ 10 minutes before boil end Galaxy 5g @ 10 minutes before boil end Citra 30g @ DRY HOP Galaxy 30g @ DRY HOP LDME 1.5 KG Dextrose 500g US05 Predicted OG 1.057 IBU 43.4 FG 1.012 EBC 18.0 %alc Keg 5.9 Bottle 6.3 Alternatively if I used 300g of Malt & Dex would result in the below? Predicted OG 1.059 IBU 43.4 FG 1.017 EBC 18.0 %alc Keg 5.5 Bottle 5.9 Would be intesresting to see the taste difference in both of those. I'm new to this so haven't experimented around, and this is my first attempt before tweaking it. Hoping to get an IPA Recipe I can come back to, tweaking things as I go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MartyG1525230263 said: Just a quick question: 2kg of fermentables 1.5kg LDM and 500g Dex isn't that a heap of sugars to get through and wouldn't it leave the brew quite sweet ... wouldn't it be better to drop the Dex and keep the maltodextrin to give better body and mouth feel and also reduce the ABV to about 5.5% ... this is a not a suggestion it is a question? Dextrose is 100% fermentable, meaning it will leave very little flavour. Maltodextrin is not 100% fermentable, meaning it will leave more sweetness. LDM leaves some sweetness as it has unfermentable sugars in the crystal malt it has. Other option is to use wheat malt which would add sweetness, body & feel. IPA's are typically stronger ABV also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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