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Nice looking recipe Lusty. I bet it was a top brew, I have never used riwaka, it looks pretty tasty.

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2 hours ago, Beerlust said:

Hi Shamus.

250cc Pale Ale v2

Cheers,

Lusty.

Thanks Lusty

Recipe looks great.  Amazing complexity of layers of flavours.  This one is going on the To do list

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Thanks guys. It was a culmination brew of sorts on the back of a lot of experimentation with those hops in different configurations & the malt bill too. Given my smaller volume boils, I actually steeped the flameout hops in a separate pot to avoid issues with overcrowding & diminished returns etc.

I'm ultimately biased of course, but I reckon it is a really, really nice hoppy beer. Enough to impress your hophead mates with anyway. 😉

I sent a bottled version up to Ben10 at the time & he really liked it too.

Cheers & good brewing,

Lusty.

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I am trying to plan my next brew, using my SFWH technique again. All this talk of Pliny the Elder cloning got me wondering if I could use a similar hop combo and schedule, but for a partial mash APA instead of a XXIPA.

On the Russian River website, they say that in addition to the Columbus, Simcoe, and Centennial that Jamil has in his recipe, they have Amarillo too! 

So far I have got this:

Pliny the Elder APA
22L
 
1.7kg Coopers Mexican Cervesa
1.3kg Briess Golden Light LME
150gm Briess Crystal Wheat = 4.4%
350gm Vienna malt = 10.3%
500gm basemalt = 14.7%
5gm Columbus SFWH x 30 min, then boiled x 20 min
3gm Simcoe SFWH x 30 min, then boiled x 20 min
5gm Centennial hop stand x 20 min
5gm Simcoe hop stand x 20 min
5gm Amarillo hop stand x 20 min
22L
14gm ale/lager yeast blend fermented @ 18C
 
10gm Columbus DH on day 3 or 4 for 5 days (increase temp by 2C for last two days), then drop temp to 13C for 2 days, then drop to 0.5C for 5 days. 
10gm Centennial DH
10gm Simcoe DH 
10gm Amarillo DH
 
I am unsure how many IBUs those SFWH additions give me.  Brewer's Friend calculator is telling me the stats are OG 1.049; FG 1.012; IBUs 35, BU:GU 0.72.
 
Lusty, fellas, what do you think? 
 
Cheers,
 
Christina.

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Hey, found this, which is supposedly the actual recipe of Pliny the Elder the way it was made back in October 2014.  It uses Cascades as well, which has since been dropped I guess. 

https://imgur.com/Tc8hjNX

Based on this, I might halve my crystal wheat, and swap Amarillo for Columbus in the SFWH. 

Cheers,

Christina.

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Nice one Christina. I’ll be very interested in how this turns out for you. As well as the SFWH addition to this beer. 👍

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3 hours ago, ChristinaS1 said:

I am unsure how many IBUs those SFWH additions give me.  Brewer's Friend calculator is telling me the stats are OG 1.049; FG 1.012; IBUs 35, BU:GU 0.72.

From some discussions I had with Kelsey quite a while back we worked out a 10% increase in IBU with a standard long boiled FWH addition. It's not a lot. I think Beersmith has a calculation for it. I don't use the program so I don't know for sure. Given this is only 30mins boiled I can only imagine you allow for a 5% increase? 🤔

Good luck with the brew. I hope it hits some nice levels for you. 🙂

Cheers,

Lusty.

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1 hour ago, The Captain!! said:

Nice one Christina. I’ll be very interested in how this turns out for you. As well as the SFWH addition to this beer. 👍

Thanks. Did you notice that they use hop extract for the 90 minute Warrior and the 45 minute Amarillo additions? Cuts down on the amount of hops a bit.

I think you should make one of your two recipes. I like the look for the first one with 6.25% ABV. More my speed. LOL!

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23 minutes ago, ChristinaS1 said:

Thanks. Did you notice that they use hop extract for the 90 minute Warrior and the 45 minute Amarillo additions? Cuts down on the amount of hops a bit.

I think you should make one of your two recipes. I like the look for the first one with 6.25% ABV. More my speed. LOL!

Yeah, I’ve been reading a lot on techniques on doubles and triple ipa’s. 

One to use hop extracts and add the sugar half way through fermentation 

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