Unkiedrunkie Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Probably has been discussed before.....what are the main influences on head retention....done quite a few brews and can be hit or miss....I myself in my small brewing world am more concerned about carbonation in my beer, and get it regularly, so that’s no issue...after some ideas??....cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbrew Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 G'day UnkieDrunkie, What ingredients do you usually use to make your beers? Replacing Brew Enhancers with Dry Malt Extract helps with head formation and retention, also steeping grains and hops can contribute too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I cam feel a head retention 2019 coming on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkiedrunkie Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Been going through the coopers range and getting fantastic results, but my best beer to date has been using the woollies draught......have been using recommended brew enhancers but I have found using dextrose with hops and other added crystals and wheat has made my beer very very likeable and great tasting.....best part is experimenting all the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Your added hop, crystal and wheat should help a lot, Unkiedrunkie. Dextrose will thin your beer making head retention poorer. Use less or none. Try steeping 300g of Caramalt. Cheers Edited March 7, 2019 by Worthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkiedrunkie Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 Very interesting about the dextrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepSpec Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Try a beer using ldm(light dry malt) instead of the dextrose. Most of mine are: 1 X can of goop(Cooper's APA is a great base) 1 or 2 boxes 500g Cooper's LDM (Up to 250g dextrose to add a bit more alcohol if desired, or to "dry/thin out" beer) (Insert hop schedule here) 1 X US-05 yeast... 23ltrs. From my results as a K&K brewer, I get the best head retention using only ldm. I buy the boxes of the Cooper's stuff, but any lhbs will have it. I'm assuming you could use the liquid malt extract to get the same results ***attention brains trust***??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Nowhere near a brains trust but you would have to up the amount of liquid malt compared to dry as it also contains water. Not quite sure of the ratio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I would say 1kg of Dry Malt Extract would be approximately equal to a 1.5kg can of Liquid Malt Extract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Pretty sure it is a 20% ratio. That is 1kg of Light Dry Malt = 1.2kg Liquid Malt Extract. The Liquid Malt Extract contains 1kg of Light Malt plus 200g of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, Shamus O'Sean said: Pretty sure it is a 20% ratio. That is 1kg of Light Dry Malt = 1.2kg Liquid Malt Extract. The Liquid Malt Extract contains 1kg of Light Malt plus 200g of water. Wouldn’t it be 1kg LDM = 1.25kg liquid malt extract If the water content is 20% then 1.25kg of liquid malt would contain 0.25kg of water (1.25 x 20%).. Leaving 1kg of malt (1.25kg - 0.25kg). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Hairy said: Wouldn’t it be 1kg LDM = 1.25kg liquid malt extract If the water content is 20% then 1.25kg of liquid malt would contain 0.25kg of water (1.25 x 20%).. Leaving 1kg of malt (1.25kg - 0.25kg). Happy to stand corrected Hairy. I may have got the percentage wrong, but it depends on which way you are going. I thought that 1kg of Light Dry Malt has the same amount of malt as 1.2kg of Liquid Malt Extract. So you have to use 20% more by weight of Liquid Malt Extract for the same amount of Dry Malt Extract. However going the other way, if a recipe calls for 1.2kg of Liquid Malt Extract, but you want to use Light Dry Malt, you have to use 16.7% less by weight (1.2kg less 16.7% = 1kg). However, if as you say 1kg LDM = 1.25kg liquid malt extract, then if a recipe calls for Light Dry Malt, but you have and want to use Liquid Malt Extract you need to use 25% more Liquid Malt Extract for the same amount of malt. And if a recipe has 1.25kg of Liquid Malt Extract, but you have and want to use Light Dry Malt you have to use 20% less by weight of Light Dry Malt for the same amount of malt. Unless somebody advises otherwise I am happy to accept your more learned information that 1kg of Light Dry Malt = 1.25kg of Liquid Malt Extract. Cheers Shamus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 It's easier to just post this... Grain to LME multiply by .75 Grain to DME multiply by .67 LME to grain divide by .75 DME to grain divide by .67 LME to DME multiply by .89 DME (Dry Malt Extract) is the 1.00 Cheers, Lusty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I think there's a typo there, it should be .80 (or .8) not .89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 19 hours ago, RepSpec said: .....I'm assuming you could use the liquid malt extract to get the same results ***attention brains trust***??? You wanted "brainstrust", Repspec? You got it! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RepSpec Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hahaha whoops...my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_G Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 100% dont forget the type of glass .... yesterday I shared an Ale with my son .... his had wonderful head, you could see every sip he had taken on the glass .... mine looked like a Asian crappy lager head ... same sample, same bottle different glass styles ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: I think there's a typo there, it should be .80 (or .8) not .89. Apologies, it should read... LME to DME multiply by .84 DME to LME divide by .84 Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 This thread is hilarious reading with the Benny Hill tune in the background 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 More like a potential Monty Python theme with be-robed theologists in big wafty hats, with feather quill pens, at the table with a big papyrus, trying to save the world from the dreaded "Malt Conversion Sacreligion" 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Anyone struggling for head retention should ultimately set their sights on All Grain brewing as their goal. I'm into my second year; Cheers 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus96 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 I am surprised no one mentioned "Your Glass" . In my experience a poorly cleaned glass with kill the head quicker than you think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogdog Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackgym Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 My LHBS ran out of US-05 yeast so gave me another American brand he recommended (forgotten what it was) but when I opened the bottles it produced very little head retention and little fizz. I've only used US-05 or Coopers yeast and wasn't aware that some yeasts produced almost flat beer ? All the other ingredients and method were the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 They don't. Something else has gone wrong if the beer is almost flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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