lamensterms Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Hey guys, We made a clone of Shooter McGavin Breakfast IPA yesterday, and stuffed it up unfortunately. The recipe has a bunch of cereal (oats, rice bubbles, Nutrigrain & All-Bran), and we use a Robobrew - so I wanted to keep all that out of the Robobrew (and pump). So... The solution was to mash the grain in the Robobrew, but mash the cereal in a separate pot. Boiled each portion separately and then combined them in the fermenter. Bad move haha Cereal mash had: Rolled oats Flaked maize Weetbix Nutrigrain Rice bubbles All Bran I didn't think of it at the time, but have since realised that we also needed base malt in the cereal mash for the starch conversion enzymes. So now we have a batch of wort with a lot of unconverted starch It is done now, but I was just wondering if there is anyway to correct the error? Can we re-mash (and reboil) this wort now that it's all mixed together? Or are the saccharification enzymes destroyed during the boil? Batch lost? Thanks for any help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Wouldnt say its done, you just wont get the expected result. It all a learning curve and we most often learn from our own mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Crabs Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Saw this recipe on the robobrew fb. Was keen to give it try. Interested to see how this turns out even with the error. I'm going to have a back log of brews haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamensterms Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Thanks for the replies guys. We'll see what it does during fermentation. @Smashed Crabs do you happen to have a link to the recipe? All we gave is a screen shot of the ingredients list, and can't find the original online.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 To make a true clone there needs to be pieces of shit added. The enzymes are denatured during the boil, so if you wanted to convert those starches in another mash you'd have to add more base malt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Crabs Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 If you have a look on facebook on the robobrew users group its posted there. I don't have a copy on me at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamensterms Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 Thanks a lot Otto and Smashed Crab. I'll let you guys know what we decide on. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamensterms Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: The enzymes are denatured during the boil, so if you wanted to convert those starches in another mash you'd have to add more base malt. https://www.keg-king.com.au/wln4100-ultra-firm-10ml-white-labs.html.html?fbclid=IwAR2lPBdz4v78c7svfw7-f4aUDg0bAsDigGd6JwD37ZtEdp8K8uBDhGn9cqc Might this be worth giving a go? More base malt too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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