Ryano2 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hey Guys, So I'm throwing down a toucan stout today. I got some lactose and I'm just wondering how much to add??? Should I just throw it in the fermenter with the dex? Cheers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The recipe doesn't use lactose mate, just the two kits and the dextrose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryano2 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Yea I know, but I was hoping the lactose added a bit of creaminess?? Dont think I should use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeastyBoy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, Ryano2 said: I got some lactose and I'm just wondering how much to add?? Hi Ryan, Some Brewers add about 250g of Lactose to sweeten the mix to take away the Tang. Yes I would bung it in with the Dext. All the best with the Toucan Stout. Have you watched the King R's Toucan Stout vid? Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Never used lactose myself but I have made that recipe before and it is quite a hearty brew. I'm not sure whether lactose would improve it or not, it's not designed as a milk stout. It's up to you but if you do use it, it just gets dissolved and added with the rest of the ingredients at the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryano2 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) I did it! It's in. I added 150g Once it's bottled and aged for a few months I'll let you know! Edited January 21, 2019 by Ryano2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silmaril Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I'm planning a Toucan but was just going to use the 2 kit yeasts. Would this work, or is there a reason for using different yeast? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gag.Halfrunt Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I made one recently but used dark malt instead of dex, and real ale instead of dark ale. It turned out pretty good. Real ale was an accident but result was still excellent. At the risk of sounding like an ad for Coopers I reckon you cant go wrong with any combo of their kits its all good stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yab Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) I have made this as per the recipe with the kit yeasts - love it (and so does my wife). Made one last spring for this winter. Edited February 23, 2019 by yab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltop hops Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, yab said: I have made this as per the recipe with the kit yeasts - love it (and so does my wife). Made one last spring for this winter. Im thinking about brewing one, do you think 4-5 months in the bottle would be ok. Planning ahead for winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yab Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Yep - this one gets better with age, but I have drunk it at that age before and it is very tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos_1984 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 What would this be like with some cacao or coaco added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yab Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Really don't think it is necessary - original recipe makes a great beer as is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) I'd agree. When I made it it was the old recipe, the one currently on the website is different. Mine used a tin each of OS stout and dark ale plus 1kg dextrose. It turned out really well, better with age. Wasn't far off the commercial extra stout. I think the current recipe uses a tin of unhopped dark malt extract instead of the dark ale kit, which would probably give a different result. Edited March 9, 2019 by Otto Von Blotto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos_1984 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I'm gonna keep it simple. Have a tin each of stout and dark ale, with 500g of dextrose lying around. Have 2 jars with harvested CCA yeast so I'll just make it up to 20 ltrs. Ferment at 18 or 21 degrees is the only real question. I made an attempt at a choc vanilla stout in Feb last year using cocoa and vanilla beans. Even after 12 months it was still shit, too thin, lacking body. Hopefully the toucan is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silmaril Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Hi all, Can anyone suggest what the OG would be on the simple Toucan recipe? One dark ale can, one stout can, 1kg dextrose. I haven't taken a reading as I'm leaving at 18L for now to see what the krausen does. Figured today was an appropriate day to make a stout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Silmaril said: Can anyone suggest what the OG would be on the simple Toucan recipe? One dark ale can, one stout can, 1kg dextrose. Hi Sil IanH spreadsheet says OG 1.078 for the two cans and 1kg Dextrose at 18L Cheers Shamus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 If you top it up at some point then the OG from 18 litres isn't much use. When I made it, the OG was about 1.061 or so. I probably did it to 23 litres but it was like 7 years ago so the memory is a bit hazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus O'Sean Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: When I made it, the OG was about 1.061 That is exactly what the IanH spreadsheet says for the Toucan Stout into 23L. @Silmaril I read on another topic that your were thinking of topping up the brew once the krausen had dropped. If you do, you will need to revise your OG accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlos_1984 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I dunno about this topping up method. I've got a toucan stout in my FV at the moment and I made it straight up to 21 ltrs and pitched with CCA yeast. The Krausen was big but the collar didn't move and there was no way it was going to overflow. It didn't get anywhere near the lid and from what my hydrometer tells me it's fermenting away perfectly fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yab Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I have always started at around 15 litres and topped up to 23 after a few days. My fermenter doesn't have a collar and it has blown out the air lock on one occasion. You can definitely see when this one is active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Crabs Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I made a RIS with 10L + headroom and still had it blow out the top. Some go massive while some don't have much krausen at all. Luck of the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silmaril Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/18/2019 at 10:34 PM, Shamus O'Sean said: That is exactly what the IanH spreadsheet says for the Toucan Stout into 23L. @Silmaril I read on another topic that your were thinking of topping up the brew once the krausen had dropped. If you do, you will need to revise your OG accordingly. Thanks @Shamus O'Sean Once you mentioned the IanH spreadsheet, I had an 'oh duh' moment, and fired it up myself. As in the recipe thread, I then got curious about other toucan recipes! The krausen on my toucan stout was incredible... like brown fairy floss crossed with cumulus clouds! I added 5 litres of water last night to bring it up to 23L. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyBrew2 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I’m gonna do a variation of this on Saturday coopers stout coopers dark liquid malt extract kilo dex caramunich , oats and chocolate grains steeped might taste like shite, might taste nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Corner Brewing Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 hours ago, PaddyBrew2 said: I’m gonna do a variation of this on Saturday coopers stout coopers dark liquid malt extract kilo dex caramunich , oats and chocolate grains steeped might taste like shite, might taste nice Ditto that, except no grain steep and switching the 1kg dex to 1kg BE2 and adding 100g lactose. Should give the same added mouthfeel and sweetness as the grain steep. Keen to see how it goes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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