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4 minutes ago, Greeny1525229549 said:

@Beerlust

These are great. Beats the hell out of dry hopping if you have kegs.

And a pretty neat device to make a nice leaf-tea of whatever sort ; )

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8 minutes ago, Greeny1525229549 said:

@Beerlust

These are great. Beats the hell out of dry hopping if you have kegs.

 

 

My 50g of citra is tied up in a chux in the keg, zero debris so far, shouldn't be much to go I've been drinking it a while.

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Hi Greeny.

1 hour ago, Greeny1525229549 said:

@Beerlust

These are great. Beats the hell out of dry hopping if you have kegs.

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I get it, but the need for it I still have reservations with. I feel if you get your recipe right this sort of thing isn't required.

I once had an underwhelming beer I had produced flavour-wise upon tasting prior to bottling/kegging. Hairy suggested adding a hop-tea to remedy the lack of flavour I had made from my recipe. I must say, it worked a treat at correcting the deficiency

I firmly believe if you are making your beer recipes to the desired levels this sort of process is not required post ferment. To that, if you are bottling your beer, this fresh hop dunking & exposure becomes very difficult to replicate.

I look at this sort of process in a practical sense as mainly a corrective measure, but aside from that, merely an overkill or perhaps "show-off" process to impress a few mates.

I try to create recipes that don't require any additional processes I can't complete within the generally accepted 2 week timeframe from the beginning of primary fermentation.

Just my 2 cents,

Lusty.

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Fair enough lusty. For me it has its benefits.

Firstly freshness of the hop flavour and aroma. It definitely lasts longer than a traditional dry hop in the keg. Secondly the cost benefit. In my estimate you are using 60% of the hops to get the same benefit from a dry hop. Hops = $$$ so a 40% saving is well worth it. Especially on a heavily hopped beer.

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22 minutes ago, Beerlust said:

Hi Greeny.

I get it, but the need for it I still have reservations with. I feel if you get your recipe right this sort of thing isn't required.

I once had an underwhelming beer I had produced flavour-wise upon tasting prior to bottling/kegging. Hairy suggested adding a hop-tea to remedy the lack of flavour I had made from my recipe. I must say, it worked a treat at correcting the deficiency

I firmly believe if you are making your beer recipes to the desired levels this sort of process is not required post ferment. To that, if you are bottling your beer, this fresh hop dunking & exposure becomes very difficult to replicate.

I look at this sort of process in a practical sense as mainly a corrective measure, but aside from that, merely an overkill or perhaps "show-off" process to impress a few mates.

I try to create recipes that don't require any additional processes I can't complete within the generally accepted 2 week timeframe from the beginning of primary fermentation.

Just my 2 cents,

Lusty.

Lusty,

Before your say that this isn’t required I think you should do it yourself. 

Don’t rubbish an idea before you try it. I’ve just tried it and I over hopped the keg hop. I halved my usual dry hop and it’s wasn’t enough, I’d say a third would suffice or 3/5 would be more spot on.

It is basically the same as dry hopping but in the keg, I’m actually surprised you haven’t done this yet considering your love of hops. 

If I dry hop a beer it costs me $16. Keg hopping is about $10. 

I will be keg hopping beers from now on, just not at the 90g I did. Probably around 50g. 

I challenge you to keg hop your next hoppy pale, then come back with your conclusion 

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2 of the 4 kegs i have have a place underneath the lid to hook in the tea ball or hop sock. The 2 older kegs i dont so i dropped the tea ball to the bottom. I have to say though when i did that which if my memory serves was twice i got even more of a hit of hop flavour. So from a consistency point of view i use my new kegs to keg hop only now.

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Cool. I'll have a look in mine and see if there's anywhere to hook the chains onto. Otherwise I'll just have to drop them in. Might try a modest 15-20g for the first go.

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1 minute ago, Otto Von Blotto said:

Might try a modest 15-20g for the first go.

Yep! Don’t be an idiot like myself and over do it. 

I think the next brew I might traditionally dry hop, then push a 15-20g keg hop, it’s sensational for this style of beer. 

Actually, I think I’ll do an exbeeriment and do the same recipe, tradition dry hop v a keg hop.

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Coopers Pale Ale tin and kilo of raw sugar, one and a half kit yeast made to 21 litres. Fermented at 18°C for 12 days, no cold crash.

20 days in glass now and it's not a bad beer. Also a cheap fridge filler for these hot Adelaide days. 

Cheers, Lee

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The never ending keg of Evil Twin.

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20 hours ago, #granted+brew said:

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Coopers Pale Ale tin and kilo of raw sugar, one and a half kit yeast made to 21 litres. Fermented at 18°C for 12 days, no cold crash.

20 days in glass now and it's not a bad beer. Also a cheap fridge filler for these hot Adelaide days. 

Cheers, Lee

Do you prefer the raw sugar to a kg of Dex or LDME Lee?

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3 minutes ago, Bearded Burbler said:

Looks v tasty Hairy!

The hops have died off a fair bit but it is still tasty.

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20 minutes ago, Hairy said:

The never ending keg of Evil Twin.

LTIH - never ending kegs, fork me they go on for a long time when you need to empty it.

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2 minutes ago, Ben 10 said:

LTIH - never ending kegs, fork me they go on for a long time when you need to empty it.

I don’t mind this one because I have nothing to fill it with. Need to get brewing.

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Was that evil twin in there before you went to the US? @Hairy

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8 minutes ago, The Captain1525230099 said:

Was that evil twin in there before you went to the US? @Hairy

Yep

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22 minutes ago, Hairy said:

Yep

Wow!

i leave a beer a couple of weeks, Mrs Captain finishes the rest!

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Just now, The Captain1525230099 said:

Wow!

i leave a beer a couple of weeks, Mrs Captain finishes the rest!

Mrs Hairy wasn’t a fan of this one, hence why it has lasted longer. She can do DIPAs but doesn’t like dark beers from ambers onwards.

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4 minutes ago, Hairy said:

Mrs Hairy wasn’t a fan of this one, hence why it has lasted longer. She can do DIPAs but doesn’t like dark beers from ambers onwards.

Ha ha mines the other way. The darker the better apparently. Not sure where she got that from being a kiwi, must have been the few years in Europe in her early twenties 

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23 hours ago, The Captain1525230099 said:

Before your say that this isn’t required I think you should do it yourself. 

My earlier comment about addressing a lack of flavour/aroma by using post ferment hopping techniques says that it does have an impact. All I'm saying is if you get the recipe balance right to start with, it shouldn't be necessary in most situations. I hop my beers well to start with so the process isn't necessary with my beers.

23 hours ago, The Captain1525230099 said:

...Don’t rubbish an idea before you try it. I’ve just tried it and I over hopped the keg hop. I halved my usual dry hop and it’s wasn’t enough, I’d say a third would suffice or 3/5 would be more spot on.

I'm not rubbishing it. I just don't need it. If you understand what is happening then you'd understand all you're buying is a fresher kind of fresh by placing them in the keg post ferment. That's all. If $2.00 worth of hops matters that much to you then go for it I say. 😉

23 hours ago, The Captain1525230099 said:

...It is basically the same as dry hopping but in the keg,

I rest my case. 😉

Cheers,

Lusty.

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3 hours ago, Bearded Burbler said:

Do you prefer the raw sugar to a kg of Dex or LDME Lee?

Hi @Bearded Burbler

This was my first time using the APA kit so can't compare it to using with any other ingredients. I'd be inclined to use LDM next time as this one is quite dry. It's finished gravity was 1.002

My main goal was a cheap beer for summer to drink while my next two or three batches age. 

I also did a real ale kit with a kilo of raw sugar to 21 litres after this batch and the sample i drew at bottling time was very tasty in comparison.

Lee. 

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Never tried it but knows his beers don't need it, and I'm the stick in the mud 😂😂

I also have a neverending keg at the moment. I want it empty to move the kegerator into the bar without stirring up the sediment but it just keeps on keeping on.

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Brew day beer.  I'm not wasting any time with this one - getting into while it's young and fresh!

Citra Pale Ale -  a simple enough partial based on an OS Lager can, 2.15kg of Gladfield American Ale malt and a small dose of carapils and Gladfield sourgrapes.

100g of citra all up. 

 

 

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