PaddyBrew2 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I’m gonna take the plunge into AG when I get back from Ireland in January. Gonna get me a robobrew. Obviously no chill is big here in Aus and I’ve been reading up on it. I read an article on brulosophy where old mate advocates this method for malt driven beers but states to steer well away when brewing hop bombs ipa’s etc which are my favourite. I know there are some calculations done for hop additions during the boil when doing no chill but just wanted to ask the wider community who no chill , how they find it when doing IPAs etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Hey Paddy, I no chill and do IPAs fairly regularly. If doing a hop bomb I cube at 82 degrees. I’ll chuck in 30-50g, It extracts a little bit of bitterness but BeerSmith accounts for that. I don’t think you’ll have any issues at all. Edited December 16, 2018 by The Captain1525230099 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Use no chill for all my ales but i fast chill for my lagers where i want clarity. Fast chill is by far the best chill haze stopping technique. Well in my opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, PaddyBrew2 said: how they find it when doing IPAs etc ? having only ever made no chilll beers and a lover of ipas i have no issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Don't make IPA much but do make a fair few pale ales which are hoppy as well. I think the best way to approach it is to simply play around with the additions to find what suits you best, as everyone does it a little different. For mine, I use a small bittering addition, then 5/10 minute, flameout and cube additions. I find this produces a decent hop flavor and aroma (there is a dry hop of course too). However, I construct the hot side hop additions backwards in Beersmith, so I'll add the 30-40g cube hop first, then a 25-30g flameout addition, same weight 5 or 10 minute boil addition, then top up the IBU with a 60 minute or first wort hop addition. I've read that brulosophy thing on no chill and I have to assume he didn't adjust anything or didn't do it properly from what was written about it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogdog Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Not sure if you keg paddy but there is keg hopping aswell. Or buy a chiller. Ill probably go that way and skip the cube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, grogdog said: Not sure if you keg paddy but there is keg hopping aswell. Or buy a chiller. Ill probably go that way and skip the cube. Any beer i want to dry hop that will be kegged gets keg hopped. For me keg hopping s%its all over dry hopping then kegging. The hop presence lingers far longer than a traditional dry hop. A chiller is good and so is a cube. I recommend both methods depending on what you are doing but each to there own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Pirate Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Doesn't the Robobrew come with a counter flow chiller anyway ? I like no chill, great for a weeknight brew or stocking up and even for gifting to friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenyinthewestofsydney Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Yeah robobrew does. At least mine did anyway. Great piece of kit to have especially for lagers where i want great clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hmm, since I have a pool now maybe I can just chuck the cubes in there after they've had 10 minutes or so hot. Drag them out after an hour or so they should be pretty chilled down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Hmm, since I have a pool now maybe I can just chuck the cubes in there after they've had 10 minutes or so hot. Drag them out after an hour or so they should be pretty chilled down. Yep! It works great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Definitely giving it a go next brew day. Do they sink since the wort is denser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Definitely giving it a go next brew day. Do they sink since the wort is denser? I put mine on the second step on a block of wood, keeps the hot container off the fibreglass and the lid just above the water. But yes, they sink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 This one has a vinyl lining so probably be worth doing something similar. Might be something lying around here I can sit it on in there. I'll have a look around tomorrow. Already found what looks like a lid for a chest freezer in the garden shed still in its packaging 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Already found what looks like a lid for a chest freezer in the garden shed still in its packaging Of course you did!! Uncanny luck. 4 minutes ago, Otto Von Blotto said: This one has a vinyl lining so probably be worth doing something similar. Yep certainly would be worth it. Nothing worse for a pool than having a hole in the bottom of it. 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Be more uncanny luck to find the rest of the freezer to go with it Was thinking about turning it into a table that I could use on brew days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worthog Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Hmm, since I have a pool now maybe I can just chuck the cubes in there after they've had 10 minutes or so hot. Drag them out after an hour or so they should be pretty chilled down. I put my cube into the Laundry trough and change the cold water a couple of times. I leave it a few hours and when I remove it it is always under 40c. Then o/night it ambiently. Seems to work ok for me hop-wise. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I lost the plug for the laundry tub at the old place. Well, I know where it is but it can't be got. Stupid thing dropped down the tiny gap between the tub and the wall. I haven't had any complaints just leaving the cubes to cool by themselves but it will be interesting to see if I can notice a difference with pool chilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I haven’t noticed any taste difference in doing no chill normally, I’ll pool chill if there is a massive cube hop, just to make sure I’m not extracting too much bitterness. It’s all adjusted for but still piece of mind. Or when I want to pitch that night. It’s handy to have in the right situations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: I lost the plug for the laundry tub at the old place. Well, I know where it is but it can't be got. Stupid thing dropped down the tiny gap between the tub and the wall. Haha I'm guessing you don't use the laundry tub much if you've never bought another plug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Well also because we were moving out pretty soon after lol. I use it quite a lot for washing and rinsing brewing equipment but otherwise it doesn't get much use. If we soak anything it's usually in a bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 so, when i manage to empty this keg, i can clean and keg another waiting to go. i can then dump in 2 lagers that are cubed and awaiting a freezer to ferment in. good times, clear advantage for me of no chill, there is no way i could do that with a chiller. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 so, just finished a keg, kegged a beer and threw 2 lagers in fvs in the fermeezer. tomorrow i will make and cube one beer to be fermented the next day - a saison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I have a lager keg due in the fermenter tomorrow. Yeast starter is in the fridge chilling. I'll probably fit in at least 3 brew days before it's kegged. During that time I'm hoping to get a second ferment fridge as well so I can have two going at once. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I think I will start no chilling soon just to save water. I think I’ll use my chiller just to drop below 80 degrees before putting it in a cube. Would I have to change the hop schedule doing it this way?? Cheers, Beer Baron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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