therealthing691 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Just thought I would give one crack this is the recipe .Anybodys input good or bad is welcome 500g LDME 1KG wheat ME 300G Dextrose 500G Golden Naked Oats 1hr steep 1 Can of Coppers APA Hops Simcoe Lupnuln2 30g 60 minutes Galaxy 15g 30 minutes 50G Galaxy Flame Out Yeast US-05 Rehydrated Have never used both together but love Simcoe and galaxy by themselves I have done something similar with mosaic and simcoe and loved it has anybody here used Simcoe and galaxy together Cheers Regards Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 What IBUs are you chasing? I'd shorten the boil on the Galaxy too, it can present harshly with longer boil times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 What is your batch volume? I'm guessing 20+ litres? If so, need lots more hops for a double IPA. I would use your Simcoe for the extra bitterness and all the Galaxy at flameout. But need like 100g at flameout and 100g dry hop at a minimum, the more the better. I'll be brewing 11l of Centennial DIPA on Monday, aiming for 100+ IBU, 1.075 OG and hopping with 50g at 5 mins, 75g at flameout and 75g dry hopped. Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschemad911 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 But I reckon Simcoe and Galaxy would be an awesome late hop combination. If you can get hold of some Simcoe pellets to blend with the Galaxy it would be really tasty. Nothing wrong with Galaxy on its own at all, but I really like it in a blend (I've done with Mosaic, and with Enigma of the top of my head). Cheers, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 hours ago, porschemad911 said: What is your batch volume? I'm guessing 20+ litres? If so, need lots more hops for a double IPA. I would use your Simcoe for the extra bitterness and all the Galaxy at flameout. But need like 100g at flameout and 100g dry hop at a minimum, the more the better. I'll be brewing 11l of Centennial DIPA on Monday, aiming for 100+ IBU, 1.075 OG and hopping with 50g at 5 mins, 75g at flameout and 75g dry hopped. Cheers, John Batch is 18l I forgot that above thanks for the input the ibu 60 or more which is in the range of a D ipa 60 -120 IBU and a Abv 7.5 ish Og 1069 I am unsure what a apa can has in IBu but a calculator tells me with a little adjustment to above I will be at 59 so that will do me or I might get more hops cheers Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: What IBUs are you chasing? I'd shorten the boil on the Galaxy too, it can present harshly with longer boil times. Thanks for the input 60 IBU ish is what the calculator tells me !!!!!!!!galaxy for say a 3 to 5 minutes minute boil plus 10 cool would be ok do you think !!!!!!then I would do 65g for 3mins Galaxy 20g of the simcoe Lupnul n2 5minutes 30g of the simcoe Lupnul for 60minutes which gives me 60 = the can and 18 L 1069 7.5 abv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 APA tin in 18 litres at a guess would be about 33 IBU. I think John's suggestion is a good one, perhaps roll with something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 thanks to both I think I will go down to HBS for some more hops Mosaic so it will have that for dry hopping make it a mix of the 3 will repost recipe on brew day cheers thanks Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 Revised Brew 500g LDME 1KG wheat ME 300G Dextrose 500G Golden Naked Oats 1hr steep 1 Can of Coppers APA Hops 50g Simcoe Lupnul N2 60 minutes 65G Galaxy Flame Out Yeast US-05 Rehydrated Dry Hop 50g Mosiac Lupnul n2 the Bf calculator tell me 47 IBU's for the simcoe plus the can Kelsy says about 33 plus say 5-7 for the galaxy at flame out Gives me about 80 -87 IBU's Does dry hopping add any IBU's ??I know it adds plenty of flavour Should be tasty bitter and strong around 7.5 - 8 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, therealthing691 said: size of above is 18L with 7L boil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Dry hopping adds no IBU. IBU is a measure of isomerised alpha acids, you can't get iso alpha acids unless the wort is above about 75-80 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 cool thanks Kelsy they had a refurbed robo brew $280 when I was down the brew shops with cooling tube s/s tempting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben 10 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, therealthing691 said: tempting do it, do it NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 is very tempting I will ponder and maybe ring Monday oooooooooooo yes yes no yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 28 minutes ago, therealthing691 said: is very tempting I will ponder and maybe ring Monday oooooooooooo yes yes no yes Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 orrrrrrrrrrrrr I sent them a email and he got backto me he said if its still there its mine woooo hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Otto Von Blotto said: Dry hopping adds no IBU. IBU is a measure of isomerised alpha acids, you can't get iso alpha acids unless the wort is above about 75-80 degrees. An interesting read: https://beerandbrewing.com/rethinking-bitterness-in-dry-hopped-hazy-beers/?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=rethinking_bitterness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 thanks Hairy now to read about all grain and pick some brains ahhahahha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 That is interesting indeed. I wonder how the IBUs occurred if there's no hot side hop additions? I love brewing science, or any science, always changing and discovering new things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain!! Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 The IBU is a false pretender. Ha ha ha If it was a person you would tie them to a horse and send them out into the abyss never to return. ive never read that particular article however have read all those points from different sources. Great read Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB2 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Having read the article, I'm left wondering if they have discovered anything new, apart from their "in-house spectrophotometer" being unreliable. We already know this to be the case and that is why many breweries prefer to use a HPLC rather than the absorption method/spectrophotometer. Even when using the HPLC a sensory panel should be the final check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerlust Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 18 hours ago, PB2 said: Having read the article, I'm left wondering if they have discovered anything new... +1 After reading the article, I felt the same way. The experiment(s) mentioned were just about noted shifting balances in higher gravity beers when hopping at different rates with some technical gobbledigook to support it. Of course you would expect to see differences. From my standpoint if you want to take anything from the article, it's in the second paragraph. "...dry hopping can, indeed make an impact on the perception of bitterness." Mostly I found it was just more of Americans being Americans, & over-analysing things as usual. Some people just have too much time on their hands. Cheers, Lusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Von Blotto Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Yes, perceived bitterness doesn't necessarily mean the IBU is different. It depends on the recipe and whatever. I mean, my pilsners at 43-45 IBU don't taste as bitter as pale ales at 38-40 IBU (I've since reduced this as they were too bitter, they'd have been even worse at 43-45). Different recipes, different hops and boil addition times, different water profiles, different malt grists and mash temps. It all plays a part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealthing691 Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Went to check out the robo brew was one without a pump that why it was 280 so I didn't get it but decided to get a new one in a couple of weeks a gen3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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