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  1. From memory it's very amber-y for a pale ale, quite reddish. That recipe should still turn out nice though.
  2. They've got both at my Big W, I wonder if they're just providing an easier way for more experienced brewers to replace some of their gear without having to pay shipping. Personally I reckon they should ship it with a nicer kit. Nothing wrong with the Lager I actually quite like its flavour, just that lawn mower beer is bland and ordinary and if you don't know any better, which lets face it many people won't, they'll drink that and believe all the stories they've heard about how nasty home brew is. Bootmaker and a boc of BE3 and LDM, for the win! Only issue is it'd make it heavier. And more expensive I guess
  3. It is a nice kit.. I wonder, does anyone know if it's based on a commercial beer they no longer produce? I wonder that with some of their kits.
  4. Depends what you're looking for? In terms of style, the APA is a light, dry pale ale based on Cooper's Green. IMO it doesn't taste any good without the Cooper's reactivated yeast. The Bootmaker I like much better, it's more of a big bold more flavoursome US style pale ale. It reminds me a bit of 4 Pines, if 4 Pines came out of a can and lacked body and hop profile. Good news is you can put those back in. If what you mean is you're gonna try to make an APA recipe with the bootmaker kit I don't think it will turn out what you're looking for.
  5. Let's see... I've used Safale K-97 for one - manufacturer says its German ale yeast, low esters, good for Belgian wheat. Not much yeast flavour in that one although it had lots of Cascade so it was more like a wannabe Belgian pale ale. Done two with T-58 - this might be the one you're looking for? "Specialty yeast selected for its estery somewhat peppery and spicy flavor development (POF+), producing clovelike aroma. Yeast with a medium sedimentation: forms no clumps but a powdery haze when resuspended in the beer." These two were a lot nicer in terms of yeast flavour. One of the brews I did was a basic toucan, Hefe wheat & Canadian Blonde pitched directly onto the yeast cake from the prior brew, and it was delicious with no additions - bit low on body and bit soft drink like but the pronounced yeast flavours were great. I've used the kit yeast which has a bit more neutral flavour so I'm not sure what strain that is. I'm guessing it might be K-97 because Coopers tends to pair the wheat kit with that yeast strain in their recipes. I'm not familiar with the liquid yeasts since I'm still a bit of a beginner. But I would definitely give T-58 a go. As far as European beers go I like lagers or big flavoursome beers like Saisons so I enjoyed the pronounced estery flavour of the T-58.
  6. I've still got a few bottles of the 18 Vintage Ale left, cracked one tonight after ageing it for another 8 months. Still don't like it, but it's slightly less awful with age. Might let the last 3 age for another couple years and see what happens. I don't know if it's me but the combination of flavours really don't do it for me. Harsh, syrupy, sour. Not sure what they were aiming for. Actually enjoyed the kit version of the 17 ale a lot more, although it tasted a bit thin considering how alcoholic it was. Wish I'd kept a few tallies of that! Damn PET
  7. I totally agree, I reckon it's nicer than the commercial version. Not as well made obviously but I much prefer the flavour. Bit sweeter and more chocolatey!
  8. One of my favourite kits, everything I've made with it has turned out good.
  9. Something I've been doing that works quite well is to use that small kit for small batch extract brews. It sounds complicated until you look into it. All you need is a can of light dry malt, or I'm not sure about this but maybe 2 and a half of the boxes, some hops and a 20 litre stock pot which you can get from Big W for $10. Then you just google around looking for hop boil schedules for the hops you've chosen and bam. My most recent effort was LDM + El Dorado, a small amount for bittering and loads in the last 15 minutes and at flameout. It was surprisingly good, the only problem with it was 10 litres runs out way too quickly! I know you're looking for absolute beginner stuff but this is really simple. Just google extract brewing and you'll find a million simple articles explaining it. My method was a bit 'she'll be right' and it still turned out better than most of the (more expensive) kits n bits brews I've done.
  10. This is what I was gonna suggest too. I hate to say it, but as far as straight kit brews go, I didn't really like any of the Mr Beer extracts. None of them were that nice without added hops and grains, they all just tasted like kit to me. Another tip from someone who's been down the same road before is to make sure you age any beer you make from those kits for 4 to 6 weeks, they all taste bad when young - haven't had the same issue with the bigger fermenter. I would recommend the ROTM (recipe of the month) for sure, it allows you to take your brews to the next level for the minimum of fuss and extra work. I've had mixed results with them - some a bit ordinary, some excellent, but they've all been better than the straight kits. Something else you can try as a beginner if you like 'big' beers, is to use one of the bigger kit tins from the Coopers series, make it to 10L and don't add any extra malt. I've heard some of them work quite well that way.
  11. I quite often do that too, just because the LDM is easier to get - I walk past Big W on the way home from work every day. I've gone the full 500 gm for a couple of IPA's that turned out pretty nice.
  12. At those prices I find it hard to justify these days... I'll do it for a treat but when you start thinking about how much home brew you could've had for the same price suddenly the whole thing loses its appeal. Nights out in the land of Oz are stupidly expensive! That's weird, isn't 425 a Schooner? Is that a random historical thing? Speaking of odd glass sizes, has anyone else noticed that some of the craftier venues have started using older glass styles and names that are non standard? I've found myself paying pint prices for pots that look like brandy balloons without realising. Another sly trick I've noticed lately is using pot glasses that are thinner and narrower and cut to look like larger ones. But you're still paying the schooner/pint prices. I get that decent beer costs more to produce, but it's tough for punters. With a mortgage and bills and stuff to save up for I can't enjoy a session out anymore without watching the bank balance.
  13. It's not just the price of craft beer at the bottleo that's ludicrous - I find the whole pub scene for discerning beer drinkers has gone to shit in the last few years, at least where I'm at in Brisbane. Drinks are expensive, range is limited at bigger pubs because they're all owned by Coles or Woollies and full of megaswill and megacraftswill. You can get a nice beer at a dedicated craft place around town, but I've had sessions where 3 schooeys have set me back the cost of a whole batch of kit swill. And then, all the interesting places close early now cos of the lockout laws. It feels like prohibition by stealth! These days I go out for something to eat, try a couple of interesting brews and go home and tuck myself into bed before curfew, so I don't anger the fun police. I wonder how long it'll be before they try to ban home brewing cos health
  14. I've got a few months left to go then - popped the rest of the 6 pack in the cupboard after that aborted attempt at drinking them. We'll see what it's like over winter. I'll probably love it and then kick myself for not buying more! The ESVA's are an interesting beast. I try and get my hands on them every year, but there aren't many I've enjoyed as much as the Celebration Ale. Personal taste I guess. As far as kit recipes go, you'd be hard pressed to find anything better at this effort level though.
  15. This might explain it, I've never had an amber ale I liked... apart from I think it was a Sierra Nevada that was so full of hops it may as well have been an IPA.
  16. I did a side by side when I brewed the 2018 ROTM, both very nice beers, although I couldn't help but notice that even after significant ageing, I felt like the real ale/apa combo was a fraction too bitter compared with the original. Maybe it would benefit from extra steeping grains, although from memory it did have a few hundred grams.
  17. Good luck with it! I reckon, don't overthink experiments, especially with kits n bits. If it seems like it might be OK, just do it and hope for the best. I've had some good results with that method! After all, if it doesn't get infected the worst it can be is a bit ordinary. And these days you pay $60 for a carton of ordinary so if it cost me $20/$30 for 2 and a bit cartons then I'm not complaining.
  18. I tried the commercial version of the 18 ESVA after I'd already bought the ROTM (haven't brewed it yet) and I'd have to say... I intensely disliked it! I don't know why, I'm normally open minded about beer. I just found it so heavy and rich and in all the wrong ways. The previous year's ROTM was excellent though. Even in PET's after 8 months of aging it kept getting better and better.
  19. Wow. I'm really surprised that worked out so well. I would've thought there wouldn't be enough lager yeast in the mix for some of those high OG's, plus I would've assumed 12-15d would be too cold for the ale part. Did you make a starter? And with the re-pitching, is that washing the yeast first or a more she'll be right method? For a long time I didn't use that yeast at all, because when I first started brewing the wisdom seemed to be that Coopers yeast would produce inferior flavours/kit taste. I still wouldn't use it exclusively with more interesting brews, but I find it works great for keg filler type beers. If it can handle that mead, I was obviously wrong about it!
  20. Just tasting the first of my second attempt at this kit and I'm not a fan either. Partly it's because I'm generally not a fan of pale ales, I prefer them to be a bit lighter, lower in alcohol and fruity like some of the NZ pales, or heavier in hops and alcohol like the US ones that by Aussie standards are pretty much IPA's. I find a lot of Aussie pale ales sit uncomfortably in the middle, too much malt flavour and not enough alcohol. First attempt at this kit was like that. I used 1.5kg LDM and a 30gm Chinook hop tea. My partner liked it, but it didn't suit my tastes. This batch I've tried to make it lighter and easier to drink, so I went with BE3 and the 30gm Chinook again. It's quite nice and easy to drink but a bit thin and kittish. That should smooth off with ageing, but I swear this kit just tastes like a slightly nicer real ale or something. If it wasn't for the Chinook I added I don't think it would have much of any flavour at all.
  21. I looked at this at Big W the other day, was wondering how it would go. I assumed you'd need a different tap head to get it to work with the Coopers FV. I've been thinking of upgrading to stainless steel FV's with a threaded tap and just using food grade tubing, but it'll be a pricey upgrade for just kits n shits which is all I'm brewing currently. I'll give the Brigalow one a try on my next brew! Cheers for the tip.
  22. There was a great ROTM using that kit - 'Mudlust Brown Ale' - loved it. Was like drinking a boozy chocolate cake with a bit of coffee style bitterness thrown in. I'll have to grab a couple of those cans. I wonder why they're discontinuing it? I thought it produced better results than the dark beer tin.
  23. Beervis


    This might explain some of the issues I've been having... brews that were fine at 4 weeks but start to overcarb after a few months. I've been told it's the yeast breaking down residual and harder to ferment sugars, but it has only happened with brews that have more ingredients - like you say, an extra .5 of LDM or LDM plus a can of LME + spec grains, etc
  24. Beervis


    That must be it. I experimented with the same thing with a six pack of Cooper's Blue last night, noticed an improvement with it as well. It's annoying because stubbies are so convenient and easy to keep cold. Depends how much you value the contents I guess. I've been making a lot of light, cheap, pissy beers lately and those go well drinking out of the bottle.
  25. I frequently throw those in together on kits n bits leftover brews, but I wouldn't brew them that cold. The lager strain is the lesser amount in the mix (if I remember correctly) so I never go much below 20 degrees which Coopers often lists as the temp to brew in their recipes. Obviously this only works with ales, but for a simple brew I find this yeast quite good. I've never noticed any lager character in these brews, but they ferment out quickly and nicely. Lawnmower lager recipe is good swilling beer, just add some extra Hallertau hops.
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